From bbair at cse.ohio-state.edu Wed Jan 3 08:58:33 2007 From: bbair at cse.ohio-state.edu (B A Bair) Date: Wed Jan 3 09:02:07 2007 Subject: [opensource] Random Hardware References: Message-ID: Consider Freegeek (http://freegeekcolumbus.org/) when making donations of time and equipment too! "AP Fritts" wrote I am cleaning out my closet ... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20070103/03cc0091/attachment.html From lingo.13 at osu.edu Wed Jan 3 10:12:38 2007 From: lingo.13 at osu.edu (Alexander J. Lingo) Date: Wed Jan 3 10:13:01 2007 Subject: [opensource] Random Hardware In-Reply-To: <793414560612311230r15070817r2988fd7852f9d21b@mail.gmail.com> References: <793414560612311230r15070817r2988fd7852f9d21b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8242065d0701030712oe6b5e52qe08cc042f8b9afca@mail.gmail.com> Hello! Sorry for the late response, been busy. We would appriciate any hardware donations that we could put to good use. As you know, we are working on setting up a small computer lab in there for members to use. We are going to make a large push on this front soon. That said, I would also recommend donating any hardware (and time) that cannot be put to use to FreeGeek Columbus. If they cannot put the hardware to good use, they will safely recycle it for you. -- alex On 12/31/06, AP Fritts wrote: > > Hi, > > I am cleaning out my closet and I was wondering if some of the old > hardware I have would be useful in the open source computer lab. Here is a > list: > > HP Scanjet 4300C > 512MB DDR 266 ECC RAM (It might be burnt out, so we would probably want to > test it before trying it in a computer...can anyone do that?) > 2 Linksys 10/100 NIC > 1 NIC of unknown make and origin > Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live sound card (24-bit I think) > Creative Labs sound card (16-bit I think) > LITE-ON 52x32x52 CD-RW Drive > > Let me know if we want them for the computer lab! > > AP > > -- > AP Fritts > Mobile: 330-730-1404 > AIM: apfritts > > oSTEM at Ohio State, Founding President > HRC@OSU, Treasurer > GLBT Student Leaders, Treasurer > ChallengeX, Member > Open Source Club, Member > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20070103/8915dd40/attachment-0001.html From fritts.11 at osu.edu Wed Jan 3 21:49:54 2007 From: fritts.11 at osu.edu (AP Fritts) Date: Wed Jan 3 21:50:17 2007 Subject: [opensource] Random Hardware In-Reply-To: <8242065d0701030712oe6b5e52qe08cc042f8b9afca@mail.gmail.com> References: <793414560612311230r15070817r2988fd7852f9d21b@mail.gmail.com> <8242065d0701030712oe6b5e52qe08cc042f8b9afca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <793414560701031849x2f5706kf9d36983788d388f@mail.gmail.com> Hey Alex and B, Thanks for recommending FreeGeek, I will donate it to them if we OS@OSUdoesn't need it for the small computer lab. Let me know if the OS@OSU computer lab could use any of it or not....or maybe I will just visit it and look around. I assume you need admin access in order to install stuff like this. Hopefully I will be able to make it to the first meeting and we can discuss it a little there. AP On 1/3/07, Alexander J. Lingo wrote: > > Hello! > > Sorry for the late response, been busy. > > We would appriciate any hardware donations that we could put to good use. > As you know, we are working on setting up a small computer lab in there for > members to use. We are going to make a large push on this front soon. > > That said, I would also recommend donating any hardware (and time) that > cannot be put to use to FreeGeek Columbus. If they cannot put the hardware > to good use, they will safely recycle it for you. > > -- alex > > On 12/31/06, AP Fritts wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am cleaning out my closet and I was wondering if some of the old > > hardware I have would be useful in the open source computer lab. Here is a > > list: > > > > HP Scanjet 4300C > > 512MB DDR 266 ECC RAM (It might be burnt out, so we would probably want > > to test it before trying it in a computer...can anyone do that?) > > 2 Linksys 10/100 NIC > > 1 NIC of unknown make and origin > > Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live sound card (24-bit I think) > > Creative Labs sound card (16-bit I think) > > LITE-ON 52x32x52 CD-RW Drive > > > > Let me know if we want them for the computer lab! > > > > AP > > > > -- > > AP Fritts > > Mobile: 330-730-1404 > > AIM: apfritts > > > > oSTEM at Ohio State, Founding President > > HRC@OSU, Treasurer > > GLBT Student Leaders, Treasurer > > ChallengeX, Member > > Open Source Club, Member > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Opensource mailing list > > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > > > > > > > -- AP Fritts Mobile: 330-730-1404 AIM: apfritts oSTEM at Ohio State, Founding President HRC@OSU, Treasurer GLBT Student Leaders, Treasurer ChallengeX, Member Open Source Club, Member -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20070103/d1f672c3/attachment.html From lingo.13 at osu.edu Sat Jan 6 17:07:14 2007 From: lingo.13 at osu.edu (Alexander J. Lingo) Date: Sat Jan 6 17:11:22 2007 Subject: [opensource] Open Source Club Winter Quarter Information Message-ID: <8242065d0701061407s2b506056x52fcbd29df2c9537@mail.gmail.com> Hello All. We had an Officer's Meeting on 1/5/07 and talked about where the club is going and what we want to do this quarter. We had a very productive meeting with many ideas. Below is the fruits of the meeting and various other pieces club information. This is a long e-mail with a lot of information and I recommend you read it all. -- alex Table of Contents -------------------------- *Meeting Dates & Times *Quarter Meeting Ideas *Spring Quarter Workshops *Winter Involvement Fair *Website Usage and Update *Office Computer Lab *Club Operation Funding *Tuesday, January 9th Meeting Meeting Dates and Times -------------------------------------- We've decided that the Tuesday/Thursday alternating schedule hurt us more than it helped. It was confusing and hard to explain to others. ("We're the Open Source Club! We meet weekly, alternating Tuesdays and Thursdays. This week we meet on Thursday, so next week we meet on Tuesday!") It also was inconsistent how many days we had between meetings. (Tuesday -> Thursday = 8 / Thursday -> Tuesday = 4) We've decided that we will have a stable day and time each week. Our meetings will be on Tuesday at 7:00pm starting on Tuesday, January 9th at 7:00pm. We apologize for any inconvenience this causes, but we believe it to be better for the club and most of the membership. Quarter Meeting Ideas --------------------------------- This quarter, we are going to try and have a few more active meetings. For example, we could have meetings in DL280, where there are computers for all to use. Once we get the office lab up and running, we can also have some fun hacking events in it. We also came up with some ideas for meetings. Below is a list of what we came up with any anyone who has expressed interest in leading those meetings. *The New GPL -- Farhad has expressed interest. *Non-Code Contributions *Bug Reporting & Fixing *CVS & SVN *Kernel Modules *Firefox/Thunderbird Extensions -- Jim will present. *Gimp Scripts (Script-Fu) *Gaim Plugins *Installing and running Linux on the PS3 and other random hardware -- Farhad, Peter, and Tom are exploring this. If anyone has any other ideas or would like to lead a meeting on these or any other topics, e-mail me at lingo.13@osu.edu or the list. Spring Quarter Workshops --------------------------------------- We've come up with an idea of having Workshops next quarter like we had in Spring Quarter last year. This year we are exploring the idea of workshops on OpenOffice.org/media creation. So far, we have ideas for the following items for Workshops: *OpenOffice.org Writer *OpenOffice.org Calc *OpenOffice.org Impress *The GIMP *Blender/3D Modeling (http://www.blender.org) *Music/Video creation. If you have any ideas or comments, feel free to send them to the mailing list. We'll be discussing these in more depth later this quarter. Winter Involvement Fair ----------------------------------- The Winter Involvement Fair is taking place on Wednesday, January 10th from 6:00 - 8:00pm in the Ohio Union Main Lounge. We should be attending the event, but have not heard back yet from SOURCE. We could use a few people to help us man the booth, so if you are interested, please e-mail me and let me know. It would be nice if the people at the booth aren't stuck there all night and can explore all the exciting clubs and organizations present at the fair. Website Usage and Update ---------------------------------------- The website has not been very useful. Again. So, I'm at work on it. I've updated Drupal to the latest version and have cleared out all the spam comments and fake users. I've added a CAPTCHA system so that robots can no longer create accounts or post comments. I feel that this will help greatly, at least until the Robot Bill of Rights passes in 2046. I'm going to be making the website more useful soon by adding officer contact info and a reliable & accurate meeting schedule, among other things. Office Computer Lab ------------------------------- We are working hard on getting the office's computer lab up and running. Due to CS&E SOC Lab policy, we can only have one active network port. Currently we are looking at getting the 24-port switch we have working or purchasing another solution. Once we get a working network up, we should be able to get two or three desktops up and running on it. Our other issue is memory -- we just don't have enough for the Pentium III's we are going to be using. If you would like to donate any PIII-compatible memory, let me know and we can work something out. Club Operation Funding ----------------------------------- We have received an operating funds from SOURCE. We are looking into using the funds to purchase things such as food for meetings and magazines and supplies for the office. While food is tasty, open source magazines are entertaining and educational. Tuesday, January 9th Meeting --------------------------------------------- Our first meeting of the quarter will be on Tuesday, January 9th. It will be at 7:00pm in Dreese Labs 480. I will be leading this meeting with an introduction to Wordpress and a tutorial on how to get it up and running. Wordpress is an open source blog publishing platform, similar to the commercial Movable Type. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20070106/d798f562/attachment.html From lingo.13 at osu.edu Sun Jan 7 14:33:31 2007 From: lingo.13 at osu.edu (Alexander J. Lingo) Date: Sun Jan 7 14:33:51 2007 Subject: [opensource] Meeting Announcement: 1/9/06 - Up And Blogging With Wordpress in 5 Minutes In-Reply-To: <8242065d0701071125y29852c94o4a0a3180ed978397@mail.gmail.com> References: <8242065d0701071125y29852c94o4a0a3180ed978397@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8242065d0701071133m31bff293hbfe25dc3c599f730@mail.gmail.com> OPENSOURCE CLUB MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT: ====================================== Date:1/9/2006 Time: 7:00PM Room: 480 Dreese Labs Topic: Up And Blogging With Wordpress in 5 Minutes Wordpress is a powerful open-source blog publishing platform.It is highly customizable with a powerful theming system and many available plugins. In this meeting I will show how to install, set up, and manage a Wordpress installation. The talk will also cover Wordpress theming and plugins. ====================================== Club meetings are always open to the general public including nonmembers and nonstudents. Meetings are casual and usually last about one and a half hours. You are welcome to attend as your schedule permits - please be courteous when coming late or leaving early. For more information, please visit: http://opensource.cse.ohio-state.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20070107/b4d6c8f8/attachment.html From dietz.72 at osu.edu Thu Jan 11 18:14:11 2007 From: dietz.72 at osu.edu (Peter Dietz) Date: Thu Jan 11 18:14:38 2007 Subject: [opensource] The floor is yours, Tuesday Jan 16 Message-ID: <240a31830701111514x4034f94cvf9d14282f1c5d271@mail.gmail.com> Throwing this out there for everyone's consumption. We have no speaker assigned for this upcoming Tuesday, so declare your interest in demonstrating a topic, and we'll mark you down, for either this Tuesday, or sometime in the near future. I'm interested in demoing an install of Linux on the ps3, but that one won't be ready for a while, I'm too scared to break it. Perhaps we could also pick apart the CES for gadgets coming out that just beg to be broken, I mean used to satisfaction. http://ces.engadget.com/ -- Peter Dietz Student / Technologist www.eclectech.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20070111/a81ee026/attachment-0001.html From bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu Thu Jan 11 18:51:07 2007 From: bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu (paul c betts) Date: Thu Jan 11 18:51:26 2007 Subject: [opensource] The floor is yours, Tuesday Jan 16 In-Reply-To: <240a31830701111514x4034f94cvf9d14282f1c5d271@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Peter Dietz wrote: > Throwing this out there for everyone's consumption. We have no speaker > assigned for this upcoming Tuesday, so declare your interest in > demonstrating a topic, and we'll mark you down, for either this Tuesday, or > sometime in the near future. Yeah, I'd like to do the "Contributing to Open Source" talk that I had mentioned earlier on Tuesday, because it's the topic that everyone in our club should know about (and might not!) Basically, we're going to go through the steps to add a feature to an existing F/OSS project (gnome-applets): 1. Search in Bugzilla, then make a post 2. Download the source code 3. Edit the code 4. Create and test a patch 5. Send the patch back and in this particular case, 6. Find out the maintainer hates it, beg for mercy You all have a chance to have _your_ code run on thousands of PCs all over the world; get excited! Some of my code is already in Ubuntu Feisty, now all of you have to get in as well. > > I'm interested in demoing an install of Linux on the ps3, but that one won't > be ready for a while, I'm too scared to break it. That could be kind of awesome, I've heard FC6 works like gangbusters on these machines PS: If you're curious, check out http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=352802 -- Paul Betts From swaney.29 at osu.edu Thu Jan 11 20:00:32 2007 From: swaney.29 at osu.edu (BRIAN SWANEY) Date: Thu Jan 11 20:01:01 2007 Subject: [opensource] The floor is yours, Tuesday Jan 16 Message-ID: <1fc1ff81fc6f9b.1fc6f9b1fc1ff8@osu.edu> I'd find that excessively amusing. It's a shame it would take so long, but imagine the possibilities. Now if only you could create an ISO that installs Linux on any PS3 (tricking the console into thinking it's playing a game), then one day any console. Is that possible? Such fun times I would have, like it was intended, but not how it was intended <>... -Brian Swaney Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_38344_16049863.1168557251026" ------=_Part_38344_16049863.1168557251026 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Throwing this out there for everyone's consumption. We have no speaker assigned for this upcoming Tuesday, so declare your interest in demonstrating a topic, and we'll mark you down, for either this Tuesday, or sometime in the near future. I'm interested in demoing an install of Linux on the ps3, but that one won't be ready for a while, I'm too scared to break it. Perhaps we could also pick apart the CES for gadgets coming out that just beg to be broken, I mean used to satisfaction. http://ces.engadget.com/ -- Peter Dietz Student / Technologist www.eclectech.us ------=_Part_38344_16049863.1168557251026 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Throwing this out there for everyone's consumption. We have no speaker assigned for this upcoming Tuesday, so declare your interest in demonstrating a topic, and we'll mark you down, for either this Tuesday, or sometime in the near future.

I'm interested in demoing an install of Linux on the ps3, but that one won't be ready for a while, I'm too scared to break it.

Perhaps we could also pick apart the CES for gadgets coming out that just beg to be broken, I mean used to satisfaction.
http://ces.engadget.com/

--

Peter Dietz
Student / Technologist

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Create and test a patch 5. Send the patch back And in this particular case, 6. Find out the maintainer hates it, beg for mercy You all have a chance to have _your_ code run on thousands of PCs all over the world; get excited! Some of my code is already in Ubuntu Feisty, now all of you have to get in as well PS: If you're curious, check out http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=352802 ====================================== Club meetings are always open to the general public including nonmembers and nonstudents. Meetings are casual and usually last about one and a half hours. You are welcome to attend as your schedule permits - please be courteous when coming late or leaving early. For more information, please visit: http://opensource.cse.ohio-state.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Background in design or some knowledge of visual and interactive design principles highly desired. The prototypes of the games were built with Hot Potatoes (HTML & JavaScript) and Macromedia Captivate (Flash). The finished product will be distributed to all first year freshmen coming this Fall to orient them to the University Libraries. [Job description flyer attached] Salary: $10.00 per hour Start Date: Available immediately beginning Winter Quarter 2007 Contact: Send list of qualifications and links to related projects you have developed to: Fred Roecker, Head Library Instruction roecker.1@osu.edu Responsibilities: ? Work with the project team to ensure the creative vision can be realized from a technical standpoint ? Provide creative solutions to design and technical problems ? Produce Flash animations and interactive web content, coding and testing JavaScript and ActionScript for provided content ? Create and edit graphics for web and Flash content ? Assist in usability testing Qualifications: ? HTML, JavaScript, cascading style sheet, Dreamweaver ? Flash and Advanced ActionScript ? Fireworks and/or Photoshop ? Visual design skills ? Highly responsive to iterative design and testing needs ? Able to meet project deadlines Hours: Up to 20 hours per week. There is a tight deadline for this project, so most programming work will be done in January through April 2007. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: student_programmer_position_LibraryInstruction.doc Type: application/msword Size: 60928 bytes Desc: 2296292647-student_programmer_position_LibraryInstruction.doc Url : http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20070118/4d514e5f/student_programmer_position_LibraryInstruction-0001.doc From lingo.13 at osu.edu Sun Jan 21 23:23:34 2007 From: lingo.13 at osu.edu (Alexander J. Lingo) Date: Sun Jan 21 23:25:10 2007 Subject: [opensource] Meeting Announcement: 1/21/07 - Free Pizza Chat-Fest Message-ID: <8242065d0701212023t1e7b006neff0f816834acf35@mail.gmail.com> OPENSOURCE CLUB MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT: ====================================== Date:1/21/2006 Time: 7:00PM Room: 480 Dreese Labs Topic:Consuming Free Pizza Hello all! This week we are going to have a more informal, laid-back meeting. Instead of us all sitting around watching a presentation, we are going to all sit around and eat free pizza. I know, how will any future meeting ever compare? Can Open Source Club survive reaching this pinnacle, this apex? We will find a way to survive, I know we will. Anyway, the plan is to consume and chat with old and new friends about open source and related topics. To get the ball rolling on Tuesday, the Super Special Topic Of Discussion will be: "What is your favorite icon-set?" Please remember to respect everyone's viewpoints, even if they happen to like one of the twelve-thousand OS X themed icon-sets. Shame and public outcry are punishment enough for them. Oh, and by the way, Sparklingicons FTW! --alex ====================================== Club meetings are always open to the general public including nonmembers and nonstudents. Meetings are casual and usually last about one and a half hours. You are welcome to attend as your schedule permits - please be courteous when coming late or leaving early. For more information, please visit: http://opensource.cse.ohio-state.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Although I can't yet print in Linux, it would greatly help if I could instead edit her half-completed notes as she covers them in lectures and use those instead (as opposed to booting Windows and printing 30+ pages, all the while fighting with my roomate for making noise in the morning while he tries to sleep, or running up a bill for printing stuff on a semi-daily basis). -Brian Swaney From lee.2817 at osu.edu Thu Jan 25 10:44:36 2007 From: lee.2817 at osu.edu (Sean Lee) Date: Thu Jan 25 10:45:03 2007 Subject: [opensource] PDF Editing In-Reply-To: <4b42bb04b47d91.4b47d914b42bb0@osu.edu> References: <4b42bb04b47d91.4b47d914b42bb0@osu.edu> Message-ID: You've probably posted before, but what type of printer to do you have.. and do you know if it's a host-based device? As for pdf editing.. and again, two seconds on google would help you a lot, you can use pdfedit Enjoy... On 1/25/07, BRIAN SWANEY wrote: > > Does anyone know how to unpack/compile/install something from a source > code? I found an open source PDF editor at > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=177354 > > My professor only posts her class notes in PDF and my reader isn't fully > compatible with my printer driver. Although I can't yet print in Linux, it > would greatly help if I could instead edit her half-completed notes as she > covers them in lectures and use those instead (as opposed to booting Windows > and printing 30+ pages, all the while fighting with my roomate for making > noise in the morning while he tries to sleep, or running up a bill for > printing stuff on a semi-daily basis). > > -Brian Swaney > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > -- Thanks, Sean Lee (c) 614-218-4533 lee.2817@osu.edu Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering FEH Student The Ohio State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20070125/a096dee5/attachment.html From dinan at cse.ohio-state.edu Thu Jan 25 10:59:36 2007 From: dinan at cse.ohio-state.edu (Jim Dinan) Date: Thu Jan 25 10:59:54 2007 Subject: [opensource] PDF Editing In-Reply-To: <4b42bb04b47d91.4b47d914b42bb0@osu.edu> References: <4b42bb04b47d91.4b47d914b42bb0@osu.edu> Message-ID: <45B8D3E8.4030307@cse.ohio-state.edu> Hi Brian, flpsed is another PS/PDF editing tool you could try (package flpsed in Ubuntu). Alternatively, KWord will import PDFs (kword package). -jim. BRIAN SWANEY wrote: > Does anyone know how to unpack/compile/install something from a source code? I found an open source PDF editor at > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=177354 > > My professor only posts her class notes in PDF and my reader isn't fully compatible with my printer driver. Although I can't yet print in Linux, it would greatly help if I could instead edit her half-completed notes as she covers them in lectures and use those instead (as opposed to booting Windows and printing 30+ pages, all the while fighting with my roomate for making noise in the morning while he tries to sleep, or running up a bill for printing stuff on a semi-daily basis). > > -Brian Swaney -- James Dinan Graduate RA - Computer Science and Engineering The Ohio State University From uhrich.1 at gradsch.ohio-state.edu Thu Jan 25 12:03:53 2007 From: uhrich.1 at gradsch.ohio-state.edu (Marc Uhrich) Date: Thu Jan 25 12:04:16 2007 Subject: [opensource] PDF Editing References: <4b42bb04b47d91.4b47d914b42bb0@osu.edu> Message-ID: <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC15421016D34@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> > Does anyone know how to unpack/compile/install something from a source > code? Since no one answered your original question, I think I'll give it a go. Yes, I do know how to unpack, compile and install something from source. However, the person distributing the PDFEdit package also knows how to do this and, helpful as they are, decided to include the instructions in a file called README in the root directory of their source. But, if brevity is your style and email is your preferred format of reading material, I'll include the (very general and overly standardized) method of building something from source. Assumptions will be included in the (). 1. Download the package (probably in .tar.gz or tar.bz2 format) 2. Uncompress the package run-> tar -zxvf packagename.tar.gz (for tar.gz) 3. Read the README file distributed with the package. This will most likely have specific instructions that should be used if they vary from my included steps 4,5, and 6. 4. In the new directory run-> ./configure (3,4,and 5 require that you have development tools installed) 5. In the new directory run-> make 6. In the new directory run-> make install 7. Make a sandwich using rye bread with a meat and cheese of your choosing. 8. Toast and enjoy. Note: Steps 7 and 8 are optional but encouraged. A caveat is that the package may need libraries or other packages installed. In which case, the configure or make will fail. The necessity of these items will be outlined in the README making reading it a necessary evil. Hopefully, this gives you an idea of how installing software from source works. In the future, ask a more specific question like "I downloaded the tar.gz file from the intarweb through its series of tubes. What should be done after this point?" This type of question is nice because it gives scope to the question and lets people know where to start. Your question required me to either explain the entire process or ask another question to understand where you were having an issue. Generally, people won't do the former and the latter is unnecessary. Cheers, Marc Uhrich Systems Engineer @ OSU Graduate School 247 University Hall, 230 N Oval Mall Columbus, Ohio 43210 (614) 292-6998 -----Original Message----- From: opensource-bounces@cse.ohio-state.edu [mailto:opensource-bounces@cse.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of BRIAN SWANEY Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:05 AM To: Open Source mailing list Subject: [opensource] PDF Editing Does anyone know how to unpack/compile/install something from a source code? I found an open source PDF editor at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=177354 My professor only posts her class notes in PDF and my reader isn't fully compatible with my printer driver. Although I can't yet print in Linux, it would greatly help if I could instead edit her half-completed notes as she covers them in lectures and use those instead (as opposed to booting Windows and printing 30+ pages, all the while fighting with my roomate for making noise in the morning while he tries to sleep, or running up a bill for printing stuff on a semi-daily basis). -Brian Swaney _______________________________________________ Opensource mailing list Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource From bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu Thu Jan 25 13:01:27 2007 From: bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu (Paul Betts) Date: Thu Jan 25 13:01:45 2007 Subject: [opensource] PDF Editing In-Reply-To: <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC15421016D34@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> References: <4b42bb04b47d91.4b47d914b42bb0@osu.edu> <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC15421016D34@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: <1169748087.13127.8.camel@persephone> Some notes of mine: On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 12:03 -0500, Marc Uhrich wrote: > 2. Uncompress the package run-> tar -zxvf packagename.tar.gz (for > tar.gz) or 'tar -xjvf packagename.tar.bz2' (note the 'j') > 3. Read the README file distributed with the package. This will most > likely have specific instructions that should be used if they vary from > my included steps 4,5, and 6. To get the compiler and build tools, run: sudo apt-get build-essential checkinstall && sudo apt-get build-dep gaim (Why Gaim? Well, Gaim is a pretty typical GTK+ application; if you pull in its build dependencies you'll have a lot of what you need) > 4. In the new directory run-> ./configure (3,4,and 5 require that you > have development tools installed) Actually, a better idea is to run ./configure --prefix=/usr/local ; this makes all the software you've installed manually in /usr/local. Since this is a small number of programs, it's easier to keep track of then digging through /usr. > 5. In the new directory run-> make > 6. In the new directory run-> make install Actually, you want "sudo make install", but an even better idea on Ubuntu is to run 'sudo checkinstall'. This will create a package based on the program that you can remove later if you want. > 7. Make a sandwich using rye bread with a meat and cheese of your > choosing. I prefer Swiss. Make sure to butter the bread too. > 8. Toast and enjoy. > Note: Steps 7 and 8 are optional but encouraged. > A caveat is that the package may need libraries or other packages > installed. In which case, the configure or make will fail. The > necessity of these items will be outlined in the README making reading > it a necessary evil. Usually you can type "apt-cache search " and get some info, make sure to install the -dev package (like libnm-glib-dev for example), you need this to compile stuff. -- Paul Betts From bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu Thu Jan 25 13:07:31 2007 From: bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu (Paul Betts) Date: Thu Jan 25 13:09:13 2007 Subject: [opensource] PDF Editing In-Reply-To: <45B8D3E8.4030307@cse.ohio-state.edu> References: <4b42bb04b47d91.4b47d914b42bb0@osu.edu> <45B8D3E8.4030307@cse.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: <1169748451.13127.13.camel@persephone> On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 10:59 -0500, Jim Dinan wrote: > Alternatively, KWord will import PDFs (kword package). This is your best bet with regard to what you want to do. Import the PDFs into KWord then edit them (sudo apt-get install koffice will get kword; it might not show up in the menus though, you may have to just press Alt-F2 and type "kword") Alternatively, another option would be to ask the teacher to post in the native format as well as PDF, I'm sure she'd be willing to help a student who wants to participate in her class -- Paul Betts From uhrich.1 at gradsch.ohio-state.edu Thu Jan 25 15:19:56 2007 From: uhrich.1 at gradsch.ohio-state.edu (Marc Uhrich) Date: Thu Jan 25 15:20:25 2007 Subject: [opensource] PDF Editing References: <4b42bb04b47d91.4b47d914b42bb0@osu.edu><46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC15421016D34@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> <1169748087.13127.8.camel@persephone> Message-ID: <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC15421016D35@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> Paul, Thanks for filling in part of the chasm of omissions in my email. Not explaining how to get the compiler and build tools would almost definitely be a point of confusion for someone with a default install. And, I learned something new in the gaim trick. I agree with you and Jim that using KWord to convert the document is probably a better way for Brian to accomplish his task. In my experience, modifying PDF documents directly is tricky business. It's almost always a better idea to get the original document or convert it to another format that offers more control. Marc Uhrich Systems Engineer @ OSU Graduate School 247 University Hall, 230 N Oval Mall Columbus, Ohio 43210 (614) 292-6998 -----Original Message----- From: opensource-bounces@cse.ohio-state.edu [mailto:opensource-bounces@cse.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Betts Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:01 PM To: Open Source mailing list Subject: RE: [opensource] PDF Editing Some notes of mine: On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 12:03 -0500, Marc Uhrich wrote: > 2. Uncompress the package run-> tar -zxvf packagename.tar.gz (for > tar.gz) or 'tar -xjvf packagename.tar.bz2' (note the 'j') > 3. Read the README file distributed with the package. This will most > likely have specific instructions that should be used if they vary from > my included steps 4,5, and 6. To get the compiler and build tools, run: sudo apt-get build-essential checkinstall && sudo apt-get build-dep gaim (Why Gaim? Well, Gaim is a pretty typical GTK+ application; if you pull in its build dependencies you'll have a lot of what you need) > 4. In the new directory run-> ./configure (3,4,and 5 require that you > have development tools installed) Actually, a better idea is to run ./configure --prefix=/usr/local ; this makes all the software you've installed manually in /usr/local. Since this is a small number of programs, it's easier to keep track of then digging through /usr. > 5. In the new directory run-> make > 6. In the new directory run-> make install Actually, you want "sudo make install", but an even better idea on Ubuntu is to run 'sudo checkinstall'. This will create a package based on the program that you can remove later if you want. > 7. Make a sandwich using rye bread with a meat and cheese of your > choosing. I prefer Swiss. Make sure to butter the bread too. > 8. Toast and enjoy. > Note: Steps 7 and 8 are optional but encouraged. > A caveat is that the package may need libraries or other packages > installed. In which case, the configure or make will fail. The > necessity of these items will be outlined in the README making reading > it a necessary evil. Usually you can type "apt-cache search " and get some info, make sure to install the -dev package (like libnm-glib-dev for example), you need this to compile stuff. -- Paul Betts _______________________________________________ Opensource mailing list Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource From swaney.29 at osu.edu Thu Jan 25 15:43:15 2007 From: swaney.29 at osu.edu (BRIAN SWANEY) Date: Thu Jan 25 15:45:33 2007 Subject: [opensource] PDF Editing Message-ID: <4d984a14d99201.4d992014d984a1@osu.edu> Umm... I think the installation of kword was a partial failure and/or it doesn't fully read the PDF format. I'm attaching a screenshot for you to see for yourself. I couldn't find kword in the menu (not surprised) and Kword spit out a bunch of errors in the terminal. I'm not sure I understand them too well... They were: brian@brian-laptop:~$ kword X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 Major opcode: 148 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 Major opcode: 148 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device Creating link /home/brian/.kde/socket-brian-laptop. Created link from "/home/brian/.kde/socket-brian-laptop" to "/tmp/ksocket-brian"Creating link /home/brian/.kde/tmp-brian-laptop. Created link from "/home/brian/.kde/tmp-brian-laptop" to "/tmp/kde-brian" X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 Major opcode: 148 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 Major opcode: 148 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device kbuildsycoca running... Creating link /home/brian/.kde/cache-brian-laptop. Created link from "/home/brian/.kde/cache-brian-laptop" to "/var/tmp/kdecache-brian" kio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not found kio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not found kio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not found kio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not found kio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not found kio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not found kio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype ThumbCreator not found kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #36 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.6 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #35 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.6 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #34 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.6 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #33 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.6 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #32 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.6 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #31 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.6 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #30 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.6 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #29 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.6 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #28 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.6 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #27 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.6 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #26 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.6 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #25 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.6 is: 11) kword: 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Footer Frameset #6 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.62 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #5 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.62 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #4 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.62 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #3 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.62 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #2 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.62 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #1 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.62 is: 11) kword: WARNING: Footer Frameset #0 frame 0 height is so small no text will fit, adjusting (was: 10.616 is: 11) -Brian Swaney ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Betts Date: Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:07 pm Subject: Re: [opensource] PDF Editing > On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 10:59 -0500, Jim Dinan wrote: > > Alternatively, KWord will import PDFs (kword package). > > This is your best bet with regard to what you want to do. Import the > PDFs into KWord then edit them (sudo apt-get install koffice will get > kword; it might not show up in the menus though, you may have to just > press Alt-F2 and type "kword") > > Alternatively, another option would be to ask the teacher to post > in the > native format as well as PDF, I'm sure she'd be willing to help a > student who wants to participate in her class > > -- > Paul Betts > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Screenshot.png Type: image/png Size: 102281 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20070125/aeb314e7/Screenshot-0001.png From rolley.2 at osu.edu Thu Jan 25 18:45:24 2007 From: rolley.2 at osu.edu (CHRISTOPHER ROLLEY) Date: Thu Jan 25 18:45:48 2007 Subject: [opensource] Ubuntu Installation Problems Message-ID: <4e545c54e4e078.4e4e0784e545c5@osu.edu> Hello Everyone, I am trying to install Ubuntu 6.10 on a Dell Inspiron E1405 with display specs (14.1" Widescreen TFT Active Matrix WXGA+ (1440 x 900) display with TrueLifeTM). I keep getting a X-server error message that states that something is wrong with the Graphics and it is unable to display a GUI and it just takes me straight to the shell. Does anyone know how to fix this problem or do I have to try a different Linux OS( if i do does anyone have any recommendations?) Thanks for your help From bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu Thu Jan 25 19:03:28 2007 From: bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu (Paul Betts) Date: Thu Jan 25 19:04:00 2007 Subject: [opensource] Ubuntu Installation Problems In-Reply-To: <4e545c54e4e078.4e4e0784e545c5@osu.edu> References: <4e545c54e4e078.4e4e0784e545c5@osu.edu> Message-ID: <1169769808.14347.13.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 18:45 -0500, CHRISTOPHER ROLLEY wrote: > I keep getting a X-server error message that states that something is > wrong with the Graphics and it is unable to display a GUI and it just > takes me straight to the shell. This is a ghetto fix and I hope they fix this problem once and for all on Ubuntu soon because it seriously makes Linux look bad In the shell, try typing: sudo su nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf Go to the 'Section "Device"' line and below it, replace whatever the Driver line says with "vesa". Also, look for the screen resolutions in the file and replace them with 1024x768 Then run: /etc/init.d/gdm restart That should hopefully do it. If not, there's other fixes, google online and you'll find a few. Have no fear by the way, Ubuntu works perfectly with all ATI, nVidia, and Intel video cards once it's installed. -- Paul Betts From swaney.29 at osu.edu Thu Jan 25 23:35:50 2007 From: swaney.29 at osu.edu (BRIAN SWANEY) Date: Thu Jan 25 23:36:16 2007 Subject: [opensource] Ubuntu Installation Problems Message-ID: <4f1141a4f14630.4f146304f1141a@osu.edu> Mine is E1505 (strikingly similar model number) and I'm not sure if it was the same problem, but it didn't install. It took an objectionable time to boot (even for booting from a CD) and then my computer wouldn't boot (at all; presumably because of a corrupt GRUB menu). I'd try Edgy again, but I'd rather wait at least until I won't need my computer immediately after, since I'd have to reinstall Ubuntu 6.06 and fix my GRUB menu to turn it back on. Paul, you remember that instance. Do you think this fix that you mention would work? Perhaps I'd be better off installing it with you around... I can't very well search Google without a working computer... -Brian Swaney ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Betts Date: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:03 pm Subject: Re: [opensource] Ubuntu Installation Problems > On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 18:45 -0500, CHRISTOPHER ROLLEY wrote: > > I keep getting a X-server error message that states that > something is > > wrong with the Graphics and it is unable to display a GUI and it > just> takes me straight to the shell. > > This is a ghetto fix and I hope they fix this problem once and for all > on Ubuntu soon because it seriously makes Linux look bad > > In the shell, try typing: > > sudo su > nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf > Go to the 'Section "Device"' line and below it, replace whatever the > Driver line says with "vesa". Also, look for the screen > resolutions in > the file and replace them with 1024x768 > > Then run: > > /etc/init.d/gdm restart > > That should hopefully do it. If not, there's other fixes, google > onlineand you'll find a few. Have no fear by the way, Ubuntu works > perfectlywith all ATI, nVidia, and Intel video cards once it's > installed. > > -- > Paul Betts > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > From swaney.29 at osu.edu Fri Jan 26 17:56:37 2007 From: swaney.29 at osu.edu (BRIAN SWANEY) Date: Fri Jan 26 17:57:03 2007 Subject: [opensource] PDF Editing Message-ID: <51a436d519ec43.519ec4351a436d@osu.edu> Thanks for the advice, but... I'm not rich, in fact, I'm very poor. I'm looking for an affordable way of editing her PDFs, not where I pay some guy a bunch of money for some software that I'll just have to buy again the next time I reformat. By the way, I got a copy of OneNote from the NtSig thing at the involvement fair and haven't figured out how to use it (still). I hear about all these pieces of hardware it works with, but have none of those. I am trying to stick with open source methods of doing this stuff, if possible. I spoke with her after class today about the LaTex source and she said that she doesn't feel comfortable giving out her source code to one student because that would be unfair to the rest and if she posted it, none of the Windows users (the majority of the class) would even be able to read it. Therefore, my options are limited to either printing stuff out in massive quantities for each class or finding some way of editing her notes from a PDF format. They are still limited in the pricey software too, as my hard drive is subject to massive deletion. -Brian Swaney -------------- next part -------------- I saw a third-party app for Windows (about $50) that allowed users to open and edit any PDF and convert it to Word format. If you find a free software solution I'd be interested. I used to have trouble with this as well but then MS released an "Education Pack" for my Tablet PC. I've been using it for about 3 years taking notes and recording every lecture. In the first version it allowed users to "Print to OneNote" which allowed annotation on top of images. That was workable, but not ideal. OneNote 2007 (part of the MSDNAA) includes this as native functionality and it works much better. Any handouts that my professors give me are fed into the document scanner hopper right after class and placed in the appropriate OneNote folders. For example, one professor is a bit of a neo-luddite and only gave out the Syllabus on a sheet of paper. It's stored as an image in OneNote, but images are scanned with OCR by default so I can instantly find text that's included in embedded images. It also has the capability to scan recordings for words using voice recognition and even recognizes common accents (Indian, Chinese, etc.) giving the capability to scan audio for key words. For the luddite professor, I usually just download the PDF of the PowerPoint (WTF?!?) and dump it to OneNote for annotation during lecture. I can also start playing the lecture from the point of the annotation - rather than having to jump around within the audio to find a key concept. The Tablet I have is available online for about $800. http://shopping.live.com/#m=prices&itemId=25238174 Regards, Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: BRIAN SWANEY [mailto:swaney.29@osu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 2:47 PM > To: mark@marknoble.com > Subject: Re: RE: [opensource] PDF Editing > > She purposely only does them half-way, so that students come to her > lecture and fill in the rest. Being so long, and considering how often > I'm staring at my computer screen, it will likely be better to edit > them. > > She refuses to format them in any other way and told me to ask OIT for > support with editing them (then got angry when I forwarded theior > refusal). She also refuses to post them earlier than a few hours before > class. > > -Brian Swaney From stapleton at mps.ohio-state.edu Fri Jan 26 19:51:31 2007 From: stapleton at mps.ohio-state.edu (Steven James Samuel Stapleton) Date: Fri Jan 26 19:52:58 2007 Subject: [opensource] PDF Editing References: <51a436d519ec43.519ec4351a436d@osu.edu> Message-ID: <001501c741ad$498b44c0$5801a8c0@bilbo> I'm not sure about this, as I've not dealt with this a lot (I personally detest PDFs and will go to any length to avoid them), but there are several ghostscript/ghostview implementations in the free *Nix world, including one that is GNU. Don't these usually involve graphical editors? Looking at the ones available for my system, I notice they also have pdf2ps and pdf2dsc applications, which may expand your options a bit. Given you are in Linux, you may be able to find a pdf2tex or ps2tex app to join with this as well, and I know there are WYSIWYG tex editors, though I've not used them so I couldn't tell you what they are. Sorry I can't be fo more help, but I hope this can at least put you a littler further along in your search for an editor/printer. -Jim Stapleton ----- Original Message ----- From: "BRIAN SWANEY" To: Cc: "Open Source mailing list" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:56 PM Subject: Re: RE: RE: [opensource] PDF Editing > Thanks for the advice, but... > > I'm not rich, in fact, I'm very poor. I'm looking for an affordable way of > editing her PDFs, not where I pay some guy a bunch of money for some > software that I'll just have to buy again the next time I reformat. > > By the way, I got a copy of OneNote from the NtSig thing at the > involvement fair and haven't figured out how to use it (still). I hear > about all these pieces of hardware it works with, but have none of those. > I am trying to stick with open source methods of doing this stuff, if > possible. > > I spoke with her after class today about the LaTex source and she said > that she doesn't feel comfortable giving out her source code to one > student because that would be unfair to the rest and if she posted it, > none of the Windows users (the majority of the class) would even be able > to read it. Therefore, my options are limited to either printing stuff out > in massive quantities for each class or finding some way of editing her > notes from a PDF format. They are still limited in the pricey software > too, as my hard drive is subject to massive deletion. > > -Brian Swaney > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >I saw a third-party app for Windows (about $50) that allowed users to open > and edit any PDF and convert it to Word format. If you find a free > software > solution I'd be interested. > > I used to have trouble with this as well but then MS released an > "Education > Pack" for my Tablet PC. I've been using it for about 3 years taking notes > and recording every lecture. In the first version it allowed users to > "Print to OneNote" which allowed annotation on top of images. That was > workable, but not ideal. > > OneNote 2007 (part of the MSDNAA) includes this as native functionality > and > it works much better. Any handouts that my professors give me are fed > into > the document scanner hopper right after class and placed in the > appropriate > OneNote folders. For example, one professor is a bit of a neo-luddite and > only gave out the Syllabus on a sheet of paper. It's stored as an image > in > OneNote, but images are scanned with OCR by default so I can instantly > find > text that's included in embedded images. > > It also has the capability to scan recordings for words using voice > recognition and even recognizes common accents (Indian, Chinese, etc.) > giving the capability to scan audio for key words. > > For the luddite professor, I usually just download the PDF of the > PowerPoint > (WTF?!?) and dump it to OneNote for annotation during lecture. I can also > start playing the lecture from the point of the annotation - rather than > having to jump around within the audio to find a key concept. > > The Tablet I have is available online for about $800. > http://shopping.live.com/#m=prices&itemId=25238174 > > Regards, > Mark > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BRIAN SWANEY [mailto:swaney.29@osu.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 2:47 PM >> To: mark@marknoble.com >> Subject: Re: RE: [opensource] PDF Editing >> >> She purposely only does them half-way, so that students come to her >> lecture and fill in the rest. Being so long, and considering how often >> I'm staring at my computer screen, it will likely be better to edit >> them. >> >> She refuses to format them in any other way and told me to ask OIT for >> support with editing them (then got angry when I forwarded theior >> refusal). She also refuses to post them earlier than a few hours before >> class. >> >> -Brian Swaney > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > From powers.161 at osu.edu Sat Jan 27 00:30:38 2007 From: powers.161 at osu.edu (Evan Powers) Date: Sat Jan 27 00:31:02 2007 Subject: [opensource] PDF Editing In-Reply-To: <001501c741ad$498b44c0$5801a8c0@bilbo> References: <51a436d519ec43.519ec4351a436d@osu.edu> <001501c741ad$498b44c0$5801a8c0@bilbo> Message-ID: <6682cfcf0701262130r7aa9080frbf362a6ab792bffc@mail.gmail.com> When I opened this thread in GMail, Google's ad engine helpfully suggested I look at http://smartpdfconverter.com/ for my PDF-to-Word conversion needs. It appears to be a Windows program; the trial version is free and does not expire, but can only convert documents three pages long or shorter. That's a small hurdle; it's relatively easy to dice your PDF into 3-page chunks prior to conversion using command line tools (pdf2ps --> ps2ps --> ps2pdf is one way to do it if I'm not mistaken; there may be a more direct method). No idea how well it works, but it might be worth looking into. - Evan P.S. Along the same lines, the many web-based file conversion sites might be worth a look. From porr.4 at osu.edu Sat Jan 27 08:35:37 2007 From: porr.4 at osu.edu (Adam Porr) Date: Sat Jan 27 08:36:01 2007 Subject: [opensource] PDF Editing In-Reply-To: <6682cfcf0701262130r7aa9080frbf362a6ab792bffc@mail.gmail.com> References: <51a436d519ec43.519ec4351a436d@osu.edu> <001501c741ad$498b44c0$5801a8c0@bilbo> <6682cfcf0701262130r7aa9080frbf362a6ab792bffc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2772ffef0701270535l5485c935w248d0d323df6f4f1@mail.gmail.com> > That's a small hurdle; it's relatively easy to dice your PDF > into 3-page chunks prior to conversion using command line tools > (pdf2ps --> ps2ps --> ps2pdf is one way to do it if I'm not mistaken; > there may be a more direct method). Consider pdftk (http://www.accesspdf.com/pdftk/, Ubuntu package pdftk) for splitting (concatenating, etc) in one step. Adam -- gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys F7F72CBA 2E02 EEAC EF67 E8B3 1FA5 6DF4 A0FB C0CF F7F7 2CBA From dinan at cse.ohio-state.edu Sat Jan 27 16:15:27 2007 From: dinan at cse.ohio-state.edu (Jim Dinan) Date: Sat Jan 27 16:15:47 2007 Subject: [opensource] Meeting Announcement: 1/30/07 - Crash Course in LaTeX Message-ID: <45BBC0EF.4020704@cse.ohio-state.edu> OPENSOURCE CLUB MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT: ====================================== Date: 1/30/2006 Time: 7:00PM Room: 480 Dreese Labs Topic: Crash Course in LaTeX Impress your friends with professionally done documents written in LaTeX. No, this is not a tutorial on spelling out messages in the parking lot using surgical gloves and photographing them from the roof of your dorm (but seriously, how sweet would that be). "LaTeX is a high-quality typesetting system; it includes features designed for the production of technical and scientific documentation. LaTeX is the de facto standard for the communication and publication of scientific documents." For More: http://www.latex-project.org/ ====================================== Club meetings are always open to the general public including nonmembers and nonstudents. Meetings are casual and usually last about one and a half hours. You are welcome to attend as your schedule permits - please be courteous when coming late or leaving early. For more information, please visit: http://opensource.cse.ohio-state.edu From dinan at cse.ohio-state.edu Sat Jan 27 16:43:29 2007 From: dinan at cse.ohio-state.edu (Jim Dinan) Date: Sat Jan 27 16:43:50 2007 Subject: [opensource] Meeting Announcement: 1/30/07 - Crash Course in LaTeX In-Reply-To: <45BBC0EF.4020704@cse.ohio-state.edu> References: <45BBC0EF.4020704@cse.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: <45BBC781.4020306@cse.ohio-state.edu> Apologies to those who were hoping for a presentation on FireFox plugins. Those things are pretty complicated and I just haven't had the time to put together a proper presentation. If anybody is interested in taking up the topic, please feel free! :) Also, anybody interested in giving a presentation, we still have several open slots: http://opensource.cse.ohio-state.edu/meetings/Winter2007 -jim. Jim Dinan wrote: > OPENSOURCE CLUB MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT: > ====================================== > > Date: 1/30/2006 > Time: 7:00PM > Room: 480 Dreese Labs > > Topic: Crash Course in LaTeX > > Impress your friends with professionally done documents written in > LaTeX. No, this is not a tutorial on spelling out messages in the > parking lot using surgical gloves and photographing them from the roof > of your dorm (but seriously, how sweet would that be). > > "LaTeX is a high-quality typesetting system; it includes features > designed for the production of technical and scientific documentation. > LaTeX is the de facto standard for the communication and publication of > scientific documents." > > For More: http://www.latex-project.org/ > > ====================================== > > Club meetings are always open to the general public including nonmembers > and nonstudents. Meetings are casual and usually last about one and a > half hours. You are welcome to attend as your schedule permits - please > be courteous when coming late or leaving early. > > For more information, please visit: http://opensource.cse.ohio-state.edu From bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu Sat Jan 27 18:46:56 2007 From: bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu (Paul Betts) Date: Sat Jan 27 18:50:45 2007 Subject: [opensource] Ubuntu Installation Problems In-Reply-To: <50627bc5062c35.5062c3550627bc@osu.edu> References: <50627bc5062c35.5062c3550627bc@osu.edu> Message-ID: <1169941616.21869.1.camel@persephone> On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 12:31 -0500, CHRISTOPHER ROLLEY wrote: > Hey Thanks Paul I was able to get it up and running. Do you have any > advice for getting my wireless internet connections setup. Google > doesnt seem to be helping me that much. Alright, I wrote a blog entry about this, hopefully this will solve _everyone's_ problems wrt wireless on Ubuntu. If not, leave a comment with what went wrong and I'll try to help -- Paul Betts From bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu Sat Jan 27 21:37:23 2007 From: bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu (Paul Betts) Date: Sat Jan 27 21:37:53 2007 Subject: [opensource] Ubuntu Installation Problems In-Reply-To: <1169941616.21869.1.camel@persephone> References: <50627bc5062c35.5062c3550627bc@osu.edu> <1169941616.21869.1.camel@persephone> Message-ID: <1169951844.6796.0.camel@persephone> On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 18:46 -0500, Paul Betts wrote: > Alright, I wrote a blog entry about this, hopefully this will solve > _everyone's_ problems wrt wireless on Ubuntu. If not, leave a comment > with what went wrong and I'll try to help > ps I am retarded: http://blog.paulbetts.org/index.php/2007/01/27/the-end-all-definitive-guide-to-getting-wireless-working-in-ubuntu-edgy-eft/ -- Paul Betts From zhang.556 at osu.edu Sun Jan 28 15:47:06 2007 From: zhang.556 at osu.edu (YUNLONG ZHANG) Date: Sun Jan 28 15:50:16 2007 Subject: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu Message-ID: <55a9e5855a4183.55a418355a9e58@osu.edu> Hi guys, For some reason I need to uninstall Ubuntu, Can you tell me how to do it? Whenever I inster the Windows boot CD, the linux always turns out. I don't know how to do with it. Yunlong From bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu Sun Jan 28 15:56:17 2007 From: bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu (Paul Betts) Date: Sun Jan 28 15:56:41 2007 Subject: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu In-Reply-To: <55a9e5855a4183.55a418355a9e58@osu.edu> References: <55a9e5855a4183.55a418355a9e58@osu.edu> Message-ID: <1170017777.1808.1.camel@localhost> On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 15:47 -0500, YUNLONG ZHANG wrote: > Hi guys, > > For some reason I need to uninstall Ubuntu, Can you tell me how to do > it? Whenever I inster the Windows boot CD, the linux always turns out. > I don't know how to do with it. You need to go into the BIOS and change your boot order so that it boots from the CD first (either that, or your Windows CD is bad, but it's probably the first thing). -- Paul Betts From stapleton at mps.ohio-state.edu Sun Jan 28 16:10:48 2007 From: stapleton at mps.ohio-state.edu (Steven James Samuel Stapleton) Date: Sun Jan 28 16:11:57 2007 Subject: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu References: <55a9e5855a4183.55a418355a9e58@osu.edu> Message-ID: <3c2001c74320$c9091aa0$5801a8c0@bilbo> The problem isn't that Ubuntu is installed. The problem is that your hard drive appears before your CD ROM drive in your systems boot opetions. The best way to fix this is to look at the messages one bootup, and find the "Press [some key] for boot menu". This is usually, but not always [F8]. If you have a splacsh screen, you'll need to turn it of (usually [tab], but again, not always, the actual key should be listed somewhere on the screen). There's also editing your BIOS settings to fix this, but I wouldn't advise that unless you *really* know what you are doing, because you can make your computer unbootable otherwise. -Jim Stapleton ----- Original Message ----- From: "YUNLONG ZHANG" To: Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:47 PM Subject: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu > Hi guys, > > For some reason I need to uninstall Ubuntu, Can you tell me how to do it? > Whenever I inster the Windows boot CD, the linux always turns out. I don't > know how to do with it. > > Yunlong > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > From porr.4 at osu.edu Sun Jan 28 16:50:35 2007 From: porr.4 at osu.edu (Adam Porr) Date: Sun Jan 28 16:51:23 2007 Subject: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu In-Reply-To: <3c2001c74320$c9091aa0$5801a8c0@bilbo> References: <55a9e5855a4183.55a418355a9e58@osu.edu> <3c2001c74320$c9091aa0$5801a8c0@bilbo> Message-ID: <2772ffef0701281350j52ac11d9j895e90a0451aa20@mail.gmail.com> > The best way to fix this is to look at the messages one bootup, and find the > "Press [some key] for boot menu". This is usually, but not always [F8]. If > you have a splacsh screen, you'll need to turn it of (usually [tab], but > again, not always, the actual key should be listed somewhere on the screen). Other BIOS access keys that I have seen include F1, F2, TAB, ESC, and DELETE. While you're in the BIOS menu, you might consider disabling the splash screen if there is one. The setting for this is sometimes called "Fast Boot" or "Quiet Boot". Adam -- gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys F7F72CBA 2E02 EEAC EF67 E8B3 1FA5 6DF4 A0FB C0CF F7F7 2CBA From stapleton at mps.ohio-state.edu Sun Jan 28 17:13:13 2007 From: stapleton at mps.ohio-state.edu (Steven James Samuel Stapleton) Date: Sun Jan 28 17:14:18 2007 Subject: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu References: <55a9e5855a4183.55a418355a9e58@osu.edu> <3c2001c74320$c9091aa0$5801a8c0@bilbo> <2772ffef0701281350j52ac11d9j895e90a0451aa20@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3c2b01c74329$811f70f0$5801a8c0@bilbo> >> The best way to fix this is to look at the messages one bootup, and find >> the >> "Press [some key] for boot menu". This is usually, but not always [F8]. >> If >> you have a splacsh screen, you'll need to turn it of (usually [tab], but >> again, not always, the actual key should be listed somewhere on the >> screen). > > Other BIOS access keys that I have seen include F1, F2, TAB, ESC, and > DELETE. While you're in the BIOS menu, you might consider disabling > the splash screen if there is one. The setting for this is sometimes > called "Fast Boot" or "Quiet Boot". > Actually, what I was referring to was the Boot Menu, which you can many times access external from bios configuration. It's often safer than messing with the internals of the bios because it doesn't make any perminant changes. -Jim Stapleton From swaney.29 at osu.edu Sun Jan 28 17:26:19 2007 From: swaney.29 at osu.edu (BRIAN SWANEY) Date: Sun Jan 28 17:26:59 2007 Subject: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu Message-ID: <54944975491ae4.5491ae45494497@osu.edu> Everyone seems to be telling you to go into BIOS. this will generally work fine (sometimes the BIOS doesn't let you change the boot order). Find there something about the boot order and put CD first. If that doesn't work and/or you don't want to mess around with your settings (I've seen a computer that did not give the option to change the boot order in BIOS), another key will give you a one-time boot menu. For me, BIOS is [F2] and the boot menu is [F12]. It could be a number of things though, depending on your machine. Try pressing every key that starts with "F," the [Tab] key, and the [Esc] key. whichever of these ways you encounter, you'll find your Windows disk booting. It should be self-explanitory from there. Just kill the Linux partition and install the Windows CD into the free space (you can shrink it later by booting from a live CD and running gparted). If I were you, I'd consider taking advantage of the GRUB menu (actually, I already do). Install Windows first, so it doesn't have anything to run over, then install Linux and it will let you shrink the partition and install it to a second one. The next time you boot, you'll see a menu asking what operating system you want to use. Hope this helps... -Brian Swaney ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven James Samuel Stapleton Date: Sunday, January 28, 2007 4:10 pm Subject: Re: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu > The problem isn't that Ubuntu is installed. The problem is that > your hard > drive appears before your CD ROM drive in your systems boot opetions. > > The best way to fix this is to look at the messages one bootup, and > find the > "Press [some key] for boot menu". This is usually, but not always > [F8]. If > you have a splacsh screen, you'll need to turn it of (usually > [tab], but > again, not always, the actual key should be listed somewhere on the > screen). > There's also editing your BIOS settings to fix this, but I wouldn't > advise > that unless you *really* know what you are doing, because you can > make your > computer unbootable otherwise. > > -Jim Stapleton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "YUNLONG ZHANG" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:47 PM > Subject: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu > > > > Hi guys, > > > > For some reason I need to uninstall Ubuntu, Can you tell me how > to do it? > > Whenever I inster the Windows boot CD, the linux always turns > out. I don't > > know how to do with it. > > > > Yunlong > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Opensource mailing list > > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > > > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > From wrl at express.org Sun Jan 28 17:32:51 2007 From: wrl at express.org (William R. Lorenz) Date: Sun Jan 28 17:33:34 2007 Subject: [opensource] Ubuntu Partition Shrinker In-Reply-To: <54944975491ae4.5491ae45494497@osu.edu> References: <54944975491ae4.5491ae45494497@osu.edu> Message-ID: Hi Brian, On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, BRIAN SWANEY wrote: > If I were you, I'd consider taking advantage of the GRUB menu (actually, > I already do). Install Windows first, so it doesn't have anything to run > over, then install Linux and it will let you shrink the partition and > install it to a second one. The next time you boot, you'll see a menu Does Ubuntu include a Windows partition shrinking tool, akin to Partition Magic? What kind of filesystems does it support? Is it very trustworthy? -- William R. Lorenz From zhang.556 at osu.edu Sun Jan 28 17:42:42 2007 From: zhang.556 at osu.edu (YUNLONG ZHANG) Date: Sun Jan 28 17:45:15 2007 Subject: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu Message-ID: <5607ae756010f5.56010f55607ae7@osu.edu> Thank you very much guys, I still can not get through this for all this afternoon. No matter what I change in BIOS settings, It still turns out Boot from CD: Boot from CD: Loading GRUB stage 1.5 Then go into ubuntu again. Initianally it is a dual booting system (windows/ubuntu). I just want to fix some problems in WinXP. When I want to boot from CD, it automatically get into the menu which let me to choose OS. I have nothing to do. So I reinstalled Ubuntu and run over Window. So now Ubuntu is the only OS and it still have the same problem. Thank you very much for your suggestions! Yunlong ----- Original Message ----- From: BRIAN SWANEY Date: Sunday, January 28, 2007 5:26 pm Subject: Re: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu > Everyone seems to be telling you to go into BIOS. this will > generally work fine (sometimes the BIOS doesn't let you change the > boot order). Find there something about the boot order and put CD > first. If that doesn't work and/or you don't want to mess around > with your settings (I've seen a computer that did not give the > option to change the boot order in BIOS), another key will give > you a one-time boot menu. For me, BIOS is [F2] and the boot menu > is [F12]. It could be a number of things though, depending on your > machine. Try pressing every key that starts with "F," the [Tab] > key, and the [Esc] key. whichever of these ways you encounter, > you'll find your Windows disk booting. It should be self- > explanitory from there. Just kill the Linux partition and install > the Windows CD into the free space (you can shrink it later by > booting from a live CD and running gparted). > > If I were you, I'd consider taking advantage of the GRUB menu > (actually, I already do). Install Windows first, so it doesn't > have anything to run over, then install Linux and it will let you > shrink the partition and install it to a second one. The next time > you boot, you'll see a menu asking what operating system you want > to use. > > Hope this helps... > > -Brian Swaney > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steven James Samuel Stapleton > Date: Sunday, January 28, 2007 4:10 pm > Subject: Re: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu > > > The problem isn't that Ubuntu is installed. The problem is that > > your hard > > drive appears before your CD ROM drive in your systems boot > opetions.> > > The best way to fix this is to look at the messages one bootup, > and > > find the > > "Press [some key] for boot menu". This is usually, but not > always > > [F8]. If > > you have a splacsh screen, you'll need to turn it of (usually > > [tab], but > > again, not always, the actual key should be listed somewhere on > the > > screen). > > There's also editing your BIOS settings to fix this, but I > wouldn't > > advise > > that unless you *really* know what you are doing, because you > can > > make your > > computer unbootable otherwise. > > > > -Jim Stapleton > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "YUNLONG ZHANG" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:47 PM > > Subject: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > For some reason I need to uninstall Ubuntu, Can you tell me > how > > to do it? > > > Whenever I inster the Windows boot CD, the linux always turns > > out. I don't > > > know how to do with it. > > > > > > Yunlong > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Opensource mailing list > > > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Opensource mailing list > > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > > > > From bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu Sun Jan 28 18:02:44 2007 From: bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu (Paul Betts) Date: Sun Jan 28 18:03:13 2007 Subject: [opensource] Ubuntu Partition Shrinker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1170025364.10885.4.camel@localhost> On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 17:32 -0500, William R. Lorenz wrote: > Does Ubuntu include a Windows partition shrinking tool, akin to > Partition Magic? sudo apt-get install gparted > What kind of filesystems does it support? * Fat16,Fat32 * NTFS * reiserfs * xfs (extend only) * ext2/3 * hfs/hfs+ * jfs (extend only) * reiser4 (kind of) > Is it very trustworthy? Yep. -- Paul Betts From jason at roboguys.com Sun Jan 28 18:50:30 2007 From: jason at roboguys.com (Jason Crum) Date: Sun Jan 28 18:50:54 2007 Subject: [opensource] Ubuntu Partition Shrinker In-Reply-To: <1170025364.10885.4.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <000801c74337$18564e00$6801a8c0@ransak24> I use the Live CD version quite often. http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php Only catch is loading drivers for high end SCSI controllers (like the Dell PERC 2/3/4 series) can be a pain. -----Original Message----- From: opensource-bounces@cse.ohio-state.edu [mailto:opensource-bounces@cse.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Betts Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:03 PM To: William R. Lorenz Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [opensource] Ubuntu Partition Shrinker On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 17:32 -0500, William R. Lorenz wrote: > Does Ubuntu include a Windows partition shrinking tool, akin to > Partition Magic? sudo apt-get install gparted > What kind of filesystems does it support? * Fat16,Fat32 * NTFS * reiserfs * xfs (extend only) * ext2/3 * hfs/hfs+ * jfs (extend only) * reiser4 (kind of) > Is it very trustworthy? Yep. -- Paul Betts _______________________________________________ Opensource mailing list Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource From bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu Mon Jan 29 11:29:13 2007 From: bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu (paul c betts) Date: Mon Jan 29 11:29:38 2007 Subject: [opensource] Idea for talk Message-ID: Hey, someone should do a talk on regular expressions, specifically wrt grep and sed. If you guys aren't hip to grep sed and xargs, seriously learn it because they're really handy. I've already done one this quarter so someone else should pick it up (I'll help them out though!). Volunteers? Thoughts? Comments? -- Paul Betts From bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu Mon Jan 29 20:05:32 2007 From: bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu (Paul Betts) Date: Mon Jan 29 20:05:52 2007 Subject: [opensource] Call for devs: gnome-format Message-ID: <1170119132.18678.22.camel@persephone> Hi, I'm working on a program written in Python + GTK that will hopefully be included in GNOME once it's finished, but I'm not too handy with Python and I'd like to work with some people who are better at it. Thoughts, comments, complaints, etc are also welcome! Basically, the program addresses a small but pretty fundamental 'piece' missing in desktop Linux; Brian asked me the other day, "How do I format my USB disk in GNOME?", and I was like "....!" Basically, there is no user-friendly way to do this, the closest that exists is GParted, and there isn't any access to it from Nautilus; this is a pretty glaring omission that needs to be fixed post-haste. I've been working on a program that uses HAL to get the list of storage volumes and show a simple dialog. An important feature in this tool is that it displays user-friendly filesystem selection ie: (Drop-down) * Compatible with Linux * Compatible with Linux/Windows/Mac OS X * ----- * Specific Filesystem: * * ext3 * * reiserfs, etc... The code I've got so far can be checked out using Subversion, it compiles currently but isn't finished yet and isn't my "best work", as it were: svn co svn://paulbetts.org/gnome-format -- Paul Betts From bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu Tue Jan 30 11:29:02 2007 From: bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu (Paul Betts) Date: Tue Jan 30 11:29:24 2007 Subject: [opensource] Idea for talk In-Reply-To: <5ba700e5ba82de.5ba82de5ba700e@osu.edu> References: <5ba700e5ba82de.5ba82de5ba700e@osu.edu> Message-ID: <1170174542.10153.8.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 10:47 -0500, BRIAN SWANEY wrote: > I have no idea what [regular expressions] are. > Well, the easiest way to describe regular expressions is by example. If I asked someone to describe the format of a telephone number, they'd say something like "It's 3 numbers in parenthesis, 3 numbers, a dash, then 4 more numbers" Regular expressions are a standard way to describe the same kinds of patterns. If I wanted to match a phone number, I'd write: (Yes, there is a better way to write it, but I'm going for the clean example) "^(\d\d\d) \d\d\d-\d\d\d\d$" This looks cryptic, but writing them is actually much easier than reading them, and there are a _lot_ of useful things that can be done with these kind of patterns using the two terminal tools 'grep' and 'sed' If you haven't taken 560 yet, MAKE SURE to learn these and use a language that has them (C#, Java, Ruby, Python, C/C++ with the PCRE library), it will make your life infinitely easier. -- Paul Betts From bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu Tue Jan 30 13:31:27 2007 From: bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu (Paul Betts) Date: Tue Jan 30 13:31:49 2007 Subject: [opensource] Call for devs: gnome-format In-Reply-To: <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC15421016D40@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> References: <1170119132.18678.22.camel@persephone> <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC15421016D40@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: <1170181888.10373.3.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 12:41 -0500, Marc Uhrich wrote: > Hey Paul, > I was taking a look at your python program and was having a little > difficulty making sense of it. I don't really have a lot of experience > building software for *nix platforms, so the question may be sort of > silly or indicate a broader lack of understanding. Not at all, don't worry about it! > Now that I got the disclaimer out of the way, I read the README and > INSTALL files located in the source I downloaded from your subversion > site. Both of them say to use the configuration script ./configure. > The script appears to be missing in the files I downloaded. Is the > script missing? This file typically isn't included in Subversion repositories because it's generated from configure.ac. Instead, use the ./autogen.sh and pretend it's ./configure. After that, you can run configure (unless you change configure.ac, then you need to rerun autogen.sh). When you create an distributable archive (a .tar.bz2) using "make dist", the configure script gets included. autogen.sh is really simple. only 5 lines or so: aclocal libtoolize --force --copy automake -a autoconf ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode $* -- Paul Betts From uhrich.1 at gradsch.ohio-state.edu Tue Jan 30 15:06:23 2007 From: uhrich.1 at gradsch.ohio-state.edu (Marc Uhrich) Date: Tue Jan 30 15:06:48 2007 Subject: [opensource] Call for devs: gnome-format References: <1170119132.18678.22.camel@persephone> <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC15421016D40@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> <1170181888.10373.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC15421016D42@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> Thanks Paul, I knew there was probably a good reason the configure script was missing. Your explanation makes a lot of sense. I also noticed that you put the autogen.sh script in the repository. Thanks! After installing a lot of development libraries for Python and GTK, configure is still complaining that certain libraries on my machine are too old. Specifically, it is requesting that libnautilus-extension >= 2.16, eel-2.0>=2.16, and librsvg-2.0>=2.16. I currently have versions 2.14.3, 2.14.3, 2.14.4 respectively. I'm using Ubuntu Dapper and did an update and upgrade to make sure I have the most current "stuff". Now, I can go hunting for source, but I'm assuming you didn't do that in order to build the application. How would you recommend getting the required versions of these libraries? I know that Debian has different release levels like "unstable" and "stable", does Ubuntu have the same and should I be using a more aggressive build? Thanks again in advance, Marc Uhrich Systems Engineer @ OSU Graduate School 247 University Hall, 230 N Oval Mall Columbus, Ohio 43210 (614) 292-6998 -----Original Message----- From: Paul Betts [mailto:bettsp@cse.ohio-state.edu] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:31 PM To: Marc Uhrich Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Subject: RE: [opensource] Call for devs: gnome-format On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 12:41 -0500, Marc Uhrich wrote: > Hey Paul, > I was taking a look at your python program and was having a little > difficulty making sense of it. I don't really have a lot of experience > building software for *nix platforms, so the question may be sort of > silly or indicate a broader lack of understanding. Not at all, don't worry about it! > Now that I got the disclaimer out of the way, I read the README and > INSTALL files located in the source I downloaded from your subversion > site. Both of them say to use the configuration script ./configure. > The script appears to be missing in the files I downloaded. Is the > script missing? This file typically isn't included in Subversion repositories because it's generated from configure.ac. Instead, use the ./autogen.sh and pretend it's ./configure. After that, you can run configure (unless you change configure.ac, then you need to rerun autogen.sh). When you create an distributable archive (a .tar.bz2) using "make dist", the configure script gets included. autogen.sh is really simple. only 5 lines or so: aclocal libtoolize --force --copy automake -a autoconf ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode $* -- Paul Betts From bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu Tue Jan 30 15:19:29 2007 From: bettsp at cse.ohio-state.edu (Paul Betts) Date: Tue Jan 30 15:19:57 2007 Subject: [opensource] Call for devs: gnome-format In-Reply-To: <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC15421016D42@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> References: <1170119132.18678.22.camel@persephone> <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC15421016D40@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> <1170181888.10373.3.camel@localhost> <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC15421016D42@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: <1170188369.10781.1.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 15:06 -0500, Marc Uhrich wrote: > After installing a lot of development libraries for Python and GTK, > configure is still complaining that certain libraries on my machine are > too old. Specifically, it is requesting that libnautilus-extension >= > 2.16, eel-2.0>=2.16, and librsvg-2.0>=2.16. Just change the number down; I just made it up off of the top of my head. > I currently have versions > 2.14.3, 2.14.3, 2.14.4 respectively. I'm using Ubuntu Dapper and did an > update and upgrade to make sure I have the most current "stuff". Now, I > can go hunting for source, but I'm assuming you didn't do that in order > to build the application. How would you recommend getting the required > versions of these libraries? I know that Debian has different release > levels like "unstable" and "stable", does Ubuntu have the same and > should I be using a more aggressive build? The easiest way is to upgrade to Edgy Eft; any other way will surely invoke death-by-dpkg -- Paul Betts From toms.16 at osu.edu Tue Jan 30 16:06:18 2007 From: toms.16 at osu.edu (Lowell Toms) Date: Tue Jan 30 16:06:30 2007 Subject: [opensource] RE: Partition Magic In-Reply-To: <200701302023.l0UKNB3h001186@cse.ohio-state.edu> References: <200701302023.l0UKNB3h001186@cse.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: <000301c744b2$7c382430$65256ba4@engr1.ohiostate.edu> If you're looking for a partition magic type program try: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ There's also the Qparted for those of us that prefer KDE. -----Original Message----- From: opensource-bounces@cse.ohio-state.edu [mailto:opensource-bounces@cse.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of opensource-request@cse.ohio-state.edu Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:23 PM To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Subject: Opensource Digest, Vol 23, Issue 8 Send Opensource mailing list submissions to opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to opensource-request@cse.ohio-state.edu You can reach the person managing the list at opensource-owner@cse.ohio-state.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Opensource digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Ubuntu Partition Shrinker (William R. Lorenz) 2. Re: uninstall ubuntu (YUNLONG ZHANG) 3. Re: Ubuntu Partition Shrinker (Paul Betts) 4. RE: Ubuntu Partition Shrinker (Jason Crum) 5. Idea for talk (paul c betts) 6. Call for devs: gnome-format (Paul Betts) 7. Re: Idea for talk (Paul Betts) 8. RE: Call for devs: gnome-format (Paul Betts) 9. RE: Call for devs: gnome-format (Marc Uhrich) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:32:51 -0500 (EST) From: "William R. Lorenz" Subject: [opensource] Ubuntu Partition Shrinker To: BRIAN SWANEY Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Brian, On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, BRIAN SWANEY wrote: > If I were you, I'd consider taking advantage of the GRUB menu (actually, > I already do). Install Windows first, so it doesn't have anything to run > over, then install Linux and it will let you shrink the partition and > install it to a second one. The next time you boot, you'll see a menu Does Ubuntu include a Windows partition shrinking tool, akin to Partition Magic? What kind of filesystems does it support? Is it very trustworthy? -- William R. Lorenz ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:42:42 -0500 From: YUNLONG ZHANG Subject: Re: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <5607ae756010f5.56010f55607ae7@osu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thank you very much guys, I still can not get through this for all this afternoon. No matter what I change in BIOS settings, It still turns out Boot from CD: Boot from CD: Loading GRUB stage 1.5 Then go into ubuntu again. Initianally it is a dual booting system (windows/ubuntu). I just want to fix some problems in WinXP. When I want to boot from CD, it automatically get into the menu which let me to choose OS. I have nothing to do. So I reinstalled Ubuntu and run over Window. So now Ubuntu is the only OS and it still have the same problem. Thank you very much for your suggestions! Yunlong ----- Original Message ----- From: BRIAN SWANEY Date: Sunday, January 28, 2007 5:26 pm Subject: Re: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu > Everyone seems to be telling you to go into BIOS. this will > generally work fine (sometimes the BIOS doesn't let you change the > boot order). Find there something about the boot order and put CD > first. If that doesn't work and/or you don't want to mess around > with your settings (I've seen a computer that did not give the > option to change the boot order in BIOS), another key will give > you a one-time boot menu. For me, BIOS is [F2] and the boot menu > is [F12]. It could be a number of things though, depending on your > machine. Try pressing every key that starts with "F," the [Tab] > key, and the [Esc] key. whichever of these ways you encounter, > you'll find your Windows disk booting. It should be self- > explanitory from there. Just kill the Linux partition and install > the Windows CD into the free space (you can shrink it later by > booting from a live CD and running gparted). > > If I were you, I'd consider taking advantage of the GRUB menu > (actually, I already do). Install Windows first, so it doesn't > have anything to run over, then install Linux and it will let you > shrink the partition and install it to a second one. The next time > you boot, you'll see a menu asking what operating system you want > to use. > > Hope this helps... > > -Brian Swaney > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steven James Samuel Stapleton > Date: Sunday, January 28, 2007 4:10 pm > Subject: Re: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu > > > The problem isn't that Ubuntu is installed. The problem is that > > your hard > > drive appears before your CD ROM drive in your systems boot > opetions.> > > The best way to fix this is to look at the messages one bootup, > and > > find the > > "Press [some key] for boot menu". This is usually, but not > always > > [F8]. If > > you have a splacsh screen, you'll need to turn it of (usually > > [tab], but > > again, not always, the actual key should be listed somewhere on > the > > screen). > > There's also editing your BIOS settings to fix this, but I > wouldn't > > advise > > that unless you *really* know what you are doing, because you > can > > make your > > computer unbootable otherwise. > > > > -Jim Stapleton > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "YUNLONG ZHANG" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 3:47 PM > > Subject: [opensource] uninstall ubuntu > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > For some reason I need to uninstall Ubuntu, Can you tell me > how > > to do it? > > > Whenever I inster the Windows boot CD, the linux always turns > > out. I don't > > > know how to do with it. > > > > > > Yunlong > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Opensource mailing list > > > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Opensource mailing list > > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:02:44 -0500 From: Paul Betts Subject: Re: [opensource] Ubuntu Partition Shrinker To: "William R. Lorenz" Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <1170025364.10885.4.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 17:32 -0500, William R. Lorenz wrote: > Does Ubuntu include a Windows partition shrinking tool, akin to > Partition Magic? sudo apt-get install gparted > What kind of filesystems does it support? * Fat16,Fat32 * NTFS * reiserfs * xfs (extend only) * ext2/3 * hfs/hfs+ * jfs (extend only) * reiser4 (kind of) > Is it very trustworthy? Yep. -- Paul Betts ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:50:30 -0500 From: "Jason Crum" Subject: RE: [opensource] Ubuntu Partition Shrinker To: Message-ID: <000801c74337$18564e00$6801a8c0@ransak24> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I use the Live CD version quite often. http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php Only catch is loading drivers for high end SCSI controllers (like the Dell PERC 2/3/4 series) can be a pain. -----Original Message----- From: opensource-bounces@cse.ohio-state.edu [mailto:opensource-bounces@cse.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Betts Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:03 PM To: William R. Lorenz Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [opensource] Ubuntu Partition Shrinker On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 17:32 -0500, William R. Lorenz wrote: > Does Ubuntu include a Windows partition shrinking tool, akin to > Partition Magic? sudo apt-get install gparted > What kind of filesystems does it support? * Fat16,Fat32 * NTFS * reiserfs * xfs (extend only) * ext2/3 * hfs/hfs+ * jfs (extend only) * reiser4 (kind of) > Is it very trustworthy? Yep. -- Paul Betts _______________________________________________ Opensource mailing list Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:29:13 -0500 (EST) From: paul c betts Subject: [opensource] Idea for talk To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey, someone should do a talk on regular expressions, specifically wrt grep and sed. If you guys aren't hip to grep sed and xargs, seriously learn it because they're really handy. I've already done one this quarter so someone else should pick it up (I'll help them out though!). Volunteers? Thoughts? Comments? -- Paul Betts ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:05:32 -0500 From: Paul Betts Subject: [opensource] Call for devs: gnome-format To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <1170119132.18678.22.camel@persephone> Content-Type: text/plain Hi, I'm working on a program written in Python + GTK that will hopefully be included in GNOME once it's finished, but I'm not too handy with Python and I'd like to work with some people who are better at it. Thoughts, comments, complaints, etc are also welcome! Basically, the program addresses a small but pretty fundamental 'piece' missing in desktop Linux; Brian asked me the other day, "How do I format my USB disk in GNOME?", and I was like "....!" Basically, there is no user-friendly way to do this, the closest that exists is GParted, and there isn't any access to it from Nautilus; this is a pretty glaring omission that needs to be fixed post-haste. I've been working on a program that uses HAL to get the list of storage volumes and show a simple dialog. An important feature in this tool is that it displays user-friendly filesystem selection ie: (Drop-down) * Compatible with Linux * Compatible with Linux/Windows/Mac OS X * ----- * Specific Filesystem: * * ext3 * * reiserfs, etc... The code I've got so far can be checked out using Subversion, it compiles currently but isn't finished yet and isn't my "best work", as it were: svn co svn://paulbetts.org/gnome-format -- Paul Betts ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:29:02 -0500 From: Paul Betts Subject: Re: [opensource] Idea for talk To: BRIAN SWANEY Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <1170174542.10153.8.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 10:47 -0500, BRIAN SWANEY wrote: > I have no idea what [regular expressions] are. > Well, the easiest way to describe regular expressions is by example. If I asked someone to describe the format of a telephone number, they'd say something like "It's 3 numbers in parenthesis, 3 numbers, a dash, then 4 more numbers" Regular expressions are a standard way to describe the same kinds of patterns. If I wanted to match a phone number, I'd write: (Yes, there is a better way to write it, but I'm going for the clean example) "^(\d\d\d) \d\d\d-\d\d\d\d$" This looks cryptic, but writing them is actually much easier than reading them, and there are a _lot_ of useful things that can be done with these kind of patterns using the two terminal tools 'grep' and 'sed' If you haven't taken 560 yet, MAKE SURE to learn these and use a language that has them (C#, Java, Ruby, Python, C/C++ with the PCRE library), it will make your life infinitely easier. -- Paul Betts ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:31:27 -0500 From: Paul Betts Subject: RE: [opensource] Call for devs: gnome-format To: Marc Uhrich Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <1170181888.10373.3.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 12:41 -0500, Marc Uhrich wrote: > Hey Paul, > I was taking a look at your python program and was having a little > difficulty making sense of it. I don't really have a lot of experience > building software for *nix platforms, so the question may be sort of > silly or indicate a broader lack of understanding. Not at all, don't worry about it! > Now that I got the disclaimer out of the way, I read the README and > INSTALL files located in the source I downloaded from your subversion > site. Both of them say to use the configuration script ./configure. > The script appears to be missing in the files I downloaded. Is the > script missing? This file typically isn't included in Subversion repositories because it's generated from configure.ac. Instead, use the ./autogen.sh and pretend it's ./configure. After that, you can run configure (unless you change configure.ac, then you need to rerun autogen.sh). When you create an distributable archive (a .tar.bz2) using "make dist", the configure script gets included. autogen.sh is really simple. only 5 lines or so: aclocal libtoolize --force --copy automake -a autoconf ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode $* -- Paul Betts ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:06:23 -0500 From: "Marc Uhrich" Subject: RE: [opensource] Call for devs: gnome-format To: "Paul Betts" Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Message-ID: <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC15421016D42@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks Paul, I knew there was probably a good reason the configure script was missing. Your explanation makes a lot of sense. I also noticed that you put the autogen.sh script in the repository. Thanks! After installing a lot of development libraries for Python and GTK, configure is still complaining that certain libraries on my machine are too old. Specifically, it is requesting that libnautilus-extension >= 2.16, eel-2.0>=2.16, and librsvg-2.0>=2.16. I currently have versions 2.14.3, 2.14.3, 2.14.4 respectively. I'm using Ubuntu Dapper and did an update and upgrade to make sure I have the most current "stuff". Now, I can go hunting for source, but I'm assuming you didn't do that in order to build the application. How would you recommend getting the required versions of these libraries? I know that Debian has different release levels like "unstable" and "stable", does Ubuntu have the same and should I be using a more aggressive build? Thanks again in advance, Marc Uhrich Systems Engineer @ OSU Graduate School 247 University Hall, 230 N Oval Mall Columbus, Ohio 43210 (614) 292-6998 -----Original Message----- From: Paul Betts [mailto:bettsp@cse.ohio-state.edu] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:31 PM To: Marc Uhrich Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Subject: RE: [opensource] Call for devs: gnome-format On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 12:41 -0500, Marc Uhrich wrote: > Hey Paul, > I was taking a look at your python program and was having a little > difficulty making sense of it. I don't really have a lot of experience > building software for *nix platforms, so the question may be sort of > silly or indicate a broader lack of understanding. Not at all, don't worry about it! > Now that I got the disclaimer out of the way, I read the README and > INSTALL files located in the source I downloaded from your subversion > site. Both of them say to use the configuration script ./configure. > The script appears to be missing in the files I downloaded. Is the > script missing? This file typically isn't included in Subversion repositories because it's generated from configure.ac. Instead, use the ./autogen.sh and pretend it's ./configure. After that, you can run configure (unless you change configure.ac, then you need to rerun autogen.sh). When you create an distributable archive (a .tar.bz2) using "make dist", the configure script gets included. autogen.sh is really simple. only 5 lines or so: aclocal libtoolize --force --copy automake -a autoconf ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode $* -- Paul Betts ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Opensource mailing list Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource End of Opensource Digest, Vol 23, Issue 8 *****************************************