From langkals at pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu Sun Feb 3 21:15:24 2008 From: langkals at pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (john langkals) Date: Sun Feb 3 21:15:34 2008 Subject: [opensource] dotProject In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000d01c866d3$cd537330$67209280@physics.ohiostate.edu> Hello Gang, Question...has anyone used dotProject project management tool? http://www.dotproject.net/ Any comments or suggestions? Thanks, John From dietz.72 at osu.edu Tue Feb 5 22:46:34 2008 From: dietz.72 at osu.edu (Peter Dietz) Date: Tue Feb 5 23:43:09 2008 Subject: [opensource] Fwd: ISA meeting tomorrow In-Reply-To: <3a28636b4d.36b4d3a286@osu.edu> References: <3a28636b4d.36b4d3a286@osu.edu> Message-ID: <240a31830802051946h51047d84n91cee0923ee3aeb7@mail.gmail.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This Spring, you and your friends can honor your home turf and hone your 3D skills by entering Google SketchUp's 2008 International Model Your Campus Competition. Simply model your school's campus buildings in Google SketchUp, geo-reference them in Google Earth and submit them by uploading to the Google 3D Warehouseto earn lasting online glory and, for the winners, an Apple iPod Touch , a Nintendo Wii Console, and a Google t-shirt and hat. You may enter this competition if you are a student at a higher education institution almost anywhere in the world. Please read the official rulesbefore registering. Team up with other students, or take the project on yourself. We suggest you have a faculty advisor in order to do the best work possible. Good luck and happy sketching! p.s. Google also just made their blog regarding Open Source as it pertaisn to themselves http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/ == As per this weeks meeting, I will not be able to make it, as I have to attend another activity (that is not Valentines day related), but for those who can make it, I'm sure you can find something to talk about, and perhaps someone can even lead it in my absense. -- == Peter Dietz Computer & Information Science -- The Ohio State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20080212/a384a8f7/attachment.html From dietz.72 at osu.edu Thu Feb 14 16:38:41 2008 From: dietz.72 at osu.edu (Peter Dietz) Date: Thu Feb 14 16:39:03 2008 Subject: [opensource] Re: supermodel(er)s wanted In-Reply-To: <240a31830802121937j16fe6035gf1f83175b65334d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <240a31830802121937j16fe6035gf1f83175b65334d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <240a31830802141338l3c92f81eteb1581eb3155126d@mail.gmail.com> I won't be able to make it for a meeting tonight, and it sounded like many of you might have other plans tonight (Valentines / non-Valentines), so there will not be an opensource meeting tonight. On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Peter Dietz wrote: > Google has a new competition for those with skills in modeling. > > http://contest.sketchup.com/intl/en/ > > All it takes is for us to model OSU's campus with their sketchup tool, > and do it well. Since we have alot of buildings, this might take a while. > But it could be pretty fun. > > Welcome to the 2008 International Model Your Campus Competition! > > We're back with another opportunity for you to show off your modeling > skills -- and this time the rest of the world is included! > > This Spring, you and your friends can honor your home turf and hone your > 3D skills by entering Google SketchUp's 2008 International Model Your Campus > Competition. Simply model your school's campus buildings in Google > SketchUp , geo-reference them in Google Earthand submit them by uploading to the Google > 3D Warehouse to earn lasting > online glory and, for the winners, an Apple iPod Touch, > a Nintendo Wii Console , and a Google > t-shirt and hat. > > You may enter this competition if you are a student at a higher education > institution almost anywhere in the world. Please read the official rulesbefore registering. Team up with other students, or take the project on > yourself. We suggest you have a faculty advisor in order to do the best work > possible. Good luck and happy sketching! > p.s. Google also just made their blog regarding Open Source as it pertaisn > to themselves http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/ > == > As per this weeks meeting, I will not be able to make it, as I have to > attend another activity (that is not Valentines day related), but for those > who can make it, I'm sure you can find something to talk about, and perhaps > someone can even lead it in my absense. > > > -- > == > Peter Dietz > > Computer & Information Science -- The Ohio State University -- == Peter Dietz Computer & Information Science -- The Ohio State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For user login, we use the osu single sign on, which makes it seem integrated. On Feb 3, 2008 9:15 PM, john langkals wrote: > > Hello Gang, > > Question...has anyone used dotProject project management tool? > http://www.dotproject.net/ > > Any comments or suggestions? > > Thanks, > > John > > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > -- == Peter Dietz Computer & Information Science -- The Ohio State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Developers who only know how to use Microsoft products will require businesses to purchase at the very least a server product and a copy of the developer product. Seems like the empire is striking back...... Linkage https://downloads.channel8.msdn.com/Products.aspx Marc Uhrich Systems Engineer @ OSU Graduate School 247 University Hall, 230 N Oval Mall Columbus, Ohio 43210 (614) 292-0600 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20080220/cc86b04a/attachment-0001.html From swaney.29 at osu.edu Wed Feb 20 21:19:54 2008 From: swaney.29 at osu.edu (Brian Swaney) Date: Wed Feb 20 21:20:06 2008 Subject: [opensource] Microsoft Dreamspark In-Reply-To: <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC154210782313D@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> References: <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC154210782313D@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: <47BCDFCA.3060703@osu.edu> Haven't they been doing this for a while with C# and whatnot? Isn't this what their new "cross-platform" XNA thing is ntSig talked about last quarter? If you read its license agreement, it requires that you agree never to port it to a non-Microsoft OS in return for being able to make your own XBox games (the multiple platoforms being different versions of Windows, alongside the XBox as another OS). -Brian Swaney NOTE: If you respond to this e-mail, please use your OSU-provided address, unless otherwise specified. In order to block spam, any e-mails sent here without an osu.edu or xxx.ohio-state.edu domain will not be received and the sender can expect returned mail. If you do not have an OSU address, I have probably already added you to a "trusted senders" list, and you should be able to continue communications as normal. In the event that you do not have an OSU address, and cannot reach me, please send an e-mail to my address of Lavagolemking@aol.com letting me know who you are, what you need to reach me for, and what addresses you're using so I can unblock them. Please also note that sending OSU mail from a GMail account will show up as the GMail account. If the GMail account is not on a trusted senders list, even if the From: address is trusted, the message will not be delivered. If you encounter this, please send your first e-mail from https://webmail.osu.edu/ and in that e-mail tell me the GMail address you are using, and I will whitelist it. All following messages may then be sent from either the GMail or OSU account. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Marc Uhrich wrote: > > Microsoft is now offering their developer and design tools to students > at no charge. Since this is a mailing list of developers, I thought it > might be a nice opportunity for people to get their hands on SQL > Server 2005 Developer Edition, Visual Studio 2008 or Windows Server 2003. > > In order to relate this to the topic of open source, I?d have to say > it is an ingenuous tactic by Microsoft to try to hook the kids while > they?re young. I know many developers that stuck with open source or > portable languages exclusively because they grew proficient with them > in college. Developers who only know how to use Microsoft products > will require businesses to purchase at the very least a server product > and a copy of the developer product. Seems like the empire is striking > back?? > > Linkage > > https://downloads.channel8.msdn.com/Products.aspx > > Marc Uhrich > > Systems Engineer @ OSU Graduate School > > 247 University Hall, 230 N Oval Mall > > Columbus, Ohio 43210 > > (614) 292-0600 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > From dietz.72 at osu.edu Wed Feb 20 21:52:54 2008 From: dietz.72 at osu.edu (Peter Dietz) Date: Wed Feb 20 21:53:11 2008 Subject: [opensource] Office Computer Name In-Reply-To: <1162917841.12217.18.camel@persephone> References: <454FBB31.7020100@cse.ohio-state.edu> <1162917841.12217.18.camel@persephone> Message-ID: <240a31830802201852w4275d338j7083aacfa0e19b36@mail.gmail.com> Hey Everybody, Last year Jim started a little naming contest for our lab computer, where we ended up renaming last year's computer 'dl190' as stallman. We now have a new computer this year, and will soon be outfitting our lab with another new desktop, and a laptop for demo'ing. The naming scheme in use thus far is famous computer scientists, I would like to add contributors to the free software or opensource movement, in addition, any other good names for a computer. My (personal) list is Shuttleworth - canonical / ubuntu Linus Torvalds Behlendorf - apache* * Lessig - creative commons O'Reilly - tech books But, there certainly are better names, so feel free to send in your own pick to this list. And we'll be choosing a name once we've settled on one, or three. and read below for a snip of last years postings on this subject... Forwarded conversation Subject: [opensource] Office Computer Name ------------------------ From: *james scott dinan* Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 9:00 PM To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Hey All, We've decided on a naming scheme for the club computers: we're going to name them after famous computer scientists. Here are some names that were suggested: Turing Dijkstra Phong Tomasulo Floyd Ritchie Kernigham Thompson Licklider or "Lick" Any other suggestions? We'll be renaming "dl190" next week so make your opinions known! Cheers, Jim. _______________________________________________ Opensource mailing list Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource ---------- From: *Steven James Samuel Stapleton* Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 9:21 PM To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Where's Turing? How about Bell? -Jim Stapleton ---------- From: *Nick Hurley* Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 10:34 PM To: james scott dinan Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu james scott dinan writes: > Kernigham I belive you mean "Kernighan", ending in an 'n', not an 'm'. -- Peace, Nick Life is full of surprises but never when you need one. -- Calvin ---------- From: *Karen Manukyan* Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 10:40 PM To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Stroustrup He invented my favorite programming language C++ :)) ---------- From: *Peter Dietz* Date: Fri, Nov 3, 2006 at 1:57 AM To: manukyan@cse.ohio-state.edu Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu My votes for Lick, For those of you who don't know of him, he wrote a paper on man-machine symbiosis, and was instrumental in development of the DARPA/ARPA project that eventually became the internet. -- Peter Dietz Student / Technologist www.eclectech.us ---------- From: *Cosmin Roman* Date: Fri, Nov 3, 2006 at 10:21 AM To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu I would favor von Neumann but from my own experience I know how difficult it is to use the 'von' particle :) and would Torvalds be out-of-line? :P C. ---------- From: *James Dinan* Date: Mon, Nov 6, 2006 at 5:46 PM To: Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Still working on the newsgroup problem. Forwarded post follows: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [opensource] Office Computer Name Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 07:54:51 -0500 From: B A Bair Ahem... Where's the first programmer, Ada Lovelace? or the inventor of the compiler, Grace Hopper? How about the original six Eniac programmers, Kathleen McNulty Mauchly Antonelli, Jean Jennings Bartik, Frances Snyder Holberton, Marlyn Wescoff Meltzer, Frances Bilas Spence and Ruth Lichterman Teitelbaum? Lots of good name possibilities there. For fun, you should also look up Radia Perlman, Jean E Sammet, Sally Floyd, Barbara Liskov, and Irma Wyman. And if you're interested in living pioneers, ACM just inducted Susan Landau (Sun) and Tracy Camp (Colorado School of Mines) into their roster of distinguished computer engineers. My personal hero(ine) is Helen Grenier. :-) Bettina ---------- From: *Paul Betts* Date: Tue, Nov 7, 2006 at 11:44 AM To: bbair@cse.ohio-state.edu, Alex Lingo Cc: Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu In this, I propose a deal: The OSUOSS club will name one of their PCs Lovelace if you (Bettina) encourage ACM-W members to attend an OSUOSS meeting. Personally, I think it's a win-win situation, as both of our organizations are trying to get students excited about computer science, so the more people we can get, the better! This department has far too many students who aren't learning about what's cool and new about their field, especially wrt women in computer science; I think that a lot of CSE student organizations from the outside seem like "boys clubs" and I'd like to see that go straight out the window, at least with OSUOSS. We include _everyone_, regardless of how technical you are or anything else, we definitely have topics for everyone, and if we don't, anyone can make their own presentation on what they're interested in! -- Paul Betts -- == Peter Dietz Computer & Information Science -- The Ohio State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20080220/306a8044/attachment.html From swaney.29 at osu.edu Wed Feb 20 22:18:04 2008 From: swaney.29 at osu.edu (Brian Swaney) Date: Wed Feb 20 22:18:19 2008 Subject: [opensource] Office Computer Name In-Reply-To: <240a31830802201852w4275d338j7083aacfa0e19b36@mail.gmail.com> References: <454FBB31.7020100@cse.ohio-state.edu> <1162917841.12217.18.camel@persephone> <240a31830802201852w4275d338j7083aacfa0e19b36@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BCED6C.4050605@osu.edu> I vote "torvalds" for the other desktop (to go along with stallman). Not sure about the laptop though... Apache is successful enough, so maybe "behlendorf" for it... -Brian Swaney NOTE: If you respond to this e-mail, please use your OSU-provided address, unless otherwise specified. In order to block spam, any e-mails sent here without an osu.edu or xxx.ohio-state.edu domain will not be received and the sender can expect returned mail. If you do not have an OSU address, I have probably already added you to a "trusted senders" list, and you should be able to continue communications as normal. In the event that you do not have an OSU address, and cannot reach me, please send an e-mail to my address of Lavagolemking@aol.com letting me know who you are, what you need to reach me for, and what addresses you're using so I can unblock them. Please also note that sending OSU mail from a GMail account will show up as the GMail account. If the GMail account is not on a trusted senders list, even if the From: address is trusted, the message will not be delivered. If you encounter this, please send your first e-mail from https://webmail.osu.edu/ and in that e-mail tell me the GMail address you are using, and I will whitelist it. All following messages may then be sent from either the GMail or OSU account. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Peter Dietz wrote: > Hey Everybody, > > Last year Jim started a little naming contest for our lab computer, > where we ended up renaming last year's computer 'dl190' as stallman. > We now have a new computer this year, and will soon be outfitting our > lab with another new desktop, and a laptop for demo'ing. > > The naming scheme in use thus far is famous computer scientists, I > would like to add contributors to the free software or opensource > movement, in addition, any other good names for a computer. > > My (personal) list is > Shuttleworth - canonical / ubuntu > Linus Torvalds > Behlendorf - apache* > *Lessig - creative commons > O'Reilly - tech books > > But, there certainly are better names, so feel free to send in your > own pick to this list. And we'll be choosing a name once we've settled > on one, or three. > > and read below for a snip of last years postings on this subject... > > Forwarded conversation > Subject: *[opensource] Office Computer Name* > ------------------------ > > From: *james scott dinan* > > Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 9:00 PM > To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > Hey All, > > We've decided on a naming scheme for the club computers: we're going to > name them after famous computer scientists. > > Here are some names that were suggested: > > Turing > Dijkstra > Phong > Tomasulo > Floyd > Ritchie > Kernigham > Thompson > Licklider or "Lick" > > Any other suggestions? We'll be renaming "dl190" next week so make your > opinions known! > > Cheers, > Jim. > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > ---------- > From: *Steven James Samuel Stapleton* > > Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 9:21 PM > To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > Where's Turing? How about Bell? > > -Jim Stapleton > ---------- > From: *Nick Hurley* > > Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 10:34 PM > To: james scott dinan > > Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > james scott dinan > writes: > > Kernigham > > I belive you mean "Kernighan", ending in an 'n', not an 'm'. > -- > Peace, > Nick > > Life is full of surprises but never when you need one. > -- Calvin > ---------- > From: *Karen Manukyan* > > Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 10:40 PM > To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > Stroustrup > He invented my favorite programming language C++ :)) > ---------- > From: *Peter Dietz* > > Date: Fri, Nov 3, 2006 at 1:57 AM > To: manukyan@cse.ohio-state.edu > Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > My votes for Lick, > For those of you who don't know of him, he wrote a paper on > man-machine symbiosis, and was instrumental in development of the > DARPA/ARPA project that eventually became the internet. > -- > > Peter Dietz > Student / Technologist > > www.eclectech.us ---------- > From: *Cosmin Roman* > > Date: Fri, Nov 3, 2006 at 10:21 AM > To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > I would favor von Neumann > > but from my own experience I know how difficult it is to use the 'von' > particle :) > > and would Torvalds be out-of-line? :P > > C. > ---------- > From: *James Dinan* > > Date: Mon, Nov 6, 2006 at 5:46 PM > To: Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > Still working on the newsgroup problem. Forwarded post follows: > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [opensource] Office Computer Name > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 07:54:51 -0500 > From: B A Bair > > > Ahem... > Where's the first programmer, Ada Lovelace? or the inventor of the > compiler, Grace Hopper? > > How about the original six Eniac programmers, Kathleen McNulty Mauchly > Antonelli, Jean Jennings Bartik, Frances Snyder Holberton, Marlyn > Wescoff Meltzer, Frances Bilas Spence and Ruth Lichterman Teitelbaum? > Lots of good name possibilities there. > > For fun, you should also look up Radia Perlman, Jean E Sammet, Sally > Floyd, Barbara Liskov, and Irma Wyman. > > And if you're interested in living pioneers, ACM just inducted Susan > Landau (Sun) and Tracy Camp (Colorado School of Mines) into their roster > of distinguished computer engineers. > > My personal hero(ine) is Helen Grenier. > > :-) > Bettina > ---------- > From: *Paul Betts* > > Date: Tue, Nov 7, 2006 at 11:44 AM > To: bbair@cse.ohio-state.edu , Alex > Lingo > > Cc: Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > In this, I propose a deal: The OSUOSS club will name one of their PCs > Lovelace if you (Bettina) encourage ACM-W members to attend an OSUOSS > meeting. Personally, I think it's a win-win situation, as both of our > organizations are trying to get students excited about computer science, > so the more people we can get, the better! This department has far too > many students who aren't learning about what's cool and new about their > field, especially wrt women in computer science; I think that a lot of > CSE student organizations from the outside seem like "boys clubs" and > I'd like to see that go straight out the window, at least with OSUOSS. > We include _everyone_, regardless of how technical you are or anything > else, we definitely have topics for everyone, and if we don't, anyone > can make their own presentation on what they're interested in! > > -- > Paul Betts > > > > > -- > == > Peter Dietz > > Computer & Information Science -- The Ohio State University > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > From dietz.72 at osu.edu Wed Feb 20 23:47:47 2008 From: dietz.72 at osu.edu (Peter Dietz) Date: Wed Feb 20 23:48:02 2008 Subject: [opensource] Microsoft Dreamspark In-Reply-To: <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC154210782313D@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> References: <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC154210782313D@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: <240a31830802202047h413216bfj7ee51763af91eb5b@mail.gmail.com> I brought this up at work, and a co-worker and I were absolutely stunned at this. To authenticate yourself as a student, after (signing into live, and then) choosing OSU, you then authenticate via shibboleth (osu's authentication service) using your name.# ohh, and these tools would cost alot of money if you were to have to buy them. side note, at the swe career fair yesterday, several companies looking for CompSci students mentioned that they are a .NET shop, so yes, the empire is certainly making a strong move by training and arming students with knowledge of the .NET stack. ohh Microsoft...from xkcd.com [image: Real programmers set the universal constants at the start such that the universe evolves to contain the disk with the data they want.] On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Marc Uhrich < uhrich.1@gradsch.ohio-state.edu> wrote: > Microsoft is now offering their developer and design tools to students at > no charge. Since this is a mailing list of developers, I thought it might > be a nice opportunity for people to get their hands on SQL Server 2005 > Developer Edition, Visual Studio 2008 or Windows Server 2003. > > > > In order to relate this to the topic of open source, I'd have to say it is > an ingenuous tactic by Microsoft to try to hook the kids while they're > young. I know many developers that stuck with open source or portable > languages exclusively because they grew proficient with them in college. > Developers who only know how to use Microsoft products will require > businesses to purchase at the very least a server product and a copy of the > developer product. Seems like the empire is striking back?? > > > > Linkage > > https://downloads.channel8.msdn.com/Products.aspx > > > > Marc Uhrich > > Systems Engineer @ OSU Graduate School > > 247 University Hall, 230 N Oval Mall > > Columbus, Ohio 43210 > > (614) 292-0600 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > > -- == Peter Dietz Computer & Information Science -- The Ohio State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20080220/6f9dacdf/attachment.html From kremit at wrpn.net Thu Feb 21 01:51:25 2008 From: kremit at wrpn.net (Wesley Haines) Date: Thu Feb 21 01:51:44 2008 Subject: [opensource] Office Computer Name In-Reply-To: <240a31830802201852w4275d338j7083aacfa0e19b36@mail.gmail.com> References: <454FBB31.7020100@cse.ohio-state.edu> <1162917841.12217.18.camel@persephone> <240a31830802201852w4275d338j7083aacfa0e19b36@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1203576685.26794.74.camel@Kremit> > My (personal) list is > Shuttleworth - canonical / ubuntu > Linus Torvalds I second "torvalds". We might shorten it to "torvald" since that rolls off the tongue (or "command line", I guess) better. ============================================================ Wesley Haines Network Administrator Webmaster WRPN Internet Services weatherUSA http://wrpn.net/ http://www.weatherusa.net/ ============================================================ From haninger.3 at osu.edu Thu Feb 21 03:11:42 2008 From: haninger.3 at osu.edu (Andrew Haninger) Date: Thu Feb 21 03:12:02 2008 Subject: [opensource] Office Computer Name In-Reply-To: <240a31830802201852w4275d338j7083aacfa0e19b36@mail.gmail.com> References: <454FBB31.7020100@cse.ohio-state.edu> <1162917841.12217.18.camel@persephone> <240a31830802201852w4275d338j7083aacfa0e19b36@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Peter Dietz wrote: > The naming scheme in use thus far is famous computer scientists, I would > like to add contributors to the free software or opensource movement, in > addition, any other good names for a computer. What about breaking with the current scheme for nostalgic reasons? I vote for the return of "freedom". Andy From uhrich.1 at gradsch.ohio-state.edu Thu Feb 21 09:50:49 2008 From: uhrich.1 at gradsch.ohio-state.edu (Marc Uhrich) Date: Thu Feb 21 09:51:03 2008 Subject: [opensource] Microsoft Dreamspark In-Reply-To: <47BCDFCA.3060703@osu.edu> References: <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC154210782313D@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> <47BCDFCA.3060703@osu.edu> Message-ID: <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC1542107823143@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> They have been giving out the "express" version of Visual Studio and SQL Server. However, these products have limited functionality and some other unhappy restrictions. Also, 2008 doesn't have an express version at this time. Additionally, you can get a trial version of Windows Server 2003 to run for free but unless you want to crack it or reinstall every 90 (or 120 I can't remember) days it isn't really an option. So having your own key is handy. Finally, I don't know a ton about the XNA Game Studio. However, I do know that there is some limitation to deploying games unless you have a subscription to the Creators Club. DreamSpark offers a yearly subscription for free, so that's nice. All in all, if you must dance with the devil from time to time having access to this software for free is a nice treat. Peter is right that purchasing all of this would be extremely expensive. I read somewhere that people were turned off to open source software because it's free and if they could get a pay product for free there would be more of a perceived value. The get what you pay for argument may be steering people off track in relation to open source. I'm not saying it's true, but it is interesting to think about. Marc Uhrich Systems Engineer @ OSU Graduate School 247 University Hall, 230 N Oval Mall Columbus, Ohio 43210 (614) 292-0600 -----Original Message----- From: Brian Swaney [mailto:swaney.29@osu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:20 PM To: Marc Uhrich Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [opensource] Microsoft Dreamspark Haven't they been doing this for a while with C# and whatnot? Isn't this what their new "cross-platform" XNA thing is ntSig talked about last quarter? If you read its license agreement, it requires that you agree never to port it to a non-Microsoft OS in return for being able to make your own XBox games (the multiple platoforms being different versions of Windows, alongside the XBox as another OS). -Brian Swaney NOTE: If you respond to this e-mail, please use your OSU-provided address, unless otherwise specified. In order to block spam, any e-mails sent here without an osu.edu or xxx.ohio-state.edu domain will not be received and the sender can expect returned mail. If you do not have an OSU address, I have probably already added you to a "trusted senders" list, and you should be able to continue communications as normal. In the event that you do not have an OSU address, and cannot reach me, please send an e-mail to my address of Lavagolemking@aol.com letting me know who you are, what you need to reach me for, and what addresses you're using so I can unblock them. Please also note that sending OSU mail from a GMail account will show up as the GMail account. If the GMail account is not on a trusted senders list, even if the From: address is trusted, the message will not be delivered. If you encounter this, please send your first e-mail from https://webmail.osu.edu/ and in that e-mail tell me the GMail address you are using, and I will whitelist it. All following messages may then be sent from either the GMail or OSU account. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Marc Uhrich wrote: > > Microsoft is now offering their developer and design tools to students > at no charge. Since this is a mailing list of developers, I thought it > might be a nice opportunity for people to get their hands on SQL > Server 2005 Developer Edition, Visual Studio 2008 or Windows Server 2003. > > In order to relate this to the topic of open source, I'd have to say > it is an ingenuous tactic by Microsoft to try to hook the kids while > they're young. I know many developers that stuck with open source or > portable languages exclusively because they grew proficient with them > in college. Developers who only know how to use Microsoft products > will require businesses to purchase at the very least a server product > and a copy of the developer product. Seems like the empire is striking > back...... > > Linkage > > https://downloads.channel8.msdn.com/Products.aspx > > Marc Uhrich > > Systems Engineer @ OSU Graduate School > > 247 University Hall, 230 N Oval Mall > > Columbus, Ohio 43210 > > (614) 292-0600 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > From swaney.29 at osu.edu Thu Feb 21 13:36:31 2008 From: swaney.29 at osu.edu (Brian Swaney) Date: Thu Feb 21 13:36:51 2008 Subject: [opensource] Office Computer Name In-Reply-To: References: <454FBB31.7020100@cse.ohio-state.edu> <1162917841.12217.18.camel@persephone> <240a31830802201852w4275d338j7083aacfa0e19b36@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BDC4AF.60701@osu.edu> Good name for the laptop. I second it. -Brian Swaney NOTE: If you respond to this e-mail, please use your OSU-provided address, unless otherwise specified. In order to block spam, any e-mails sent here without an osu.edu or xxx.ohio-state.edu domain will not be received and the sender can expect returned mail. If you do not have an OSU address, I have probably already added you to a "trusted senders" list, and you should be able to continue communications as normal. In the event that you do not have an OSU address, and cannot reach me, please send an e-mail to my address of Lavagolemking@aol.com letting me know who you are, what you need to reach me for, and what addresses you're using so I can unblock them. Please also note that sending OSU mail from a GMail account will show up as the GMail account. If the GMail account is not on a trusted senders list, even if the From: address is trusted, the message will not be delivered. If you encounter this, please send your first e-mail from https://webmail.osu.edu/ and in that e-mail tell me the GMail address you are using, and I will whitelist it. All following messages may then be sent from either the GMail or OSU account. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Andrew Haninger wrote: > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Peter Dietz wrote: > >> The naming scheme in use thus far is famous computer scientists, I would >> like to add contributors to the free software or opensource movement, in >> addition, any other good names for a computer. >> > What about breaking with the current scheme for nostalgic reasons? > > I vote for the return of "freedom". > > Andy > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > From swaney.29 at osu.edu Thu Feb 21 13:50:42 2008 From: swaney.29 at osu.edu (Brian Swaney) Date: Thu Feb 21 13:50:56 2008 Subject: [opensource] Microsoft Dreamspark In-Reply-To: <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC1542107823143@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> References: <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC154210782313D@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> <47BCDFCA.3060703@osu.edu> <46CB246A6FE23948B81E95787CC1542107823143@exchange.gradsch.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: <47BDC802.9090705@osu.edu> I was asking if Microsoft had been stingy with their developers' code before. I don't care about the fact that there is a trial/full version (I think some developers would like syntax errors highlighted before they try to compile), but the idea of locking people into a proprietary operating system. XNA, if I recall correctly, requires a subscription for you to be able to make actual (working) XBox game CDs. You can program it and all, and even format the ISO, but the XBox will only support games signed and blessed by Microsoft. You can play it by hooking the computer to the XBox though. Anyway, according to ntSig's speaker, in order to make your own game disk, you have to send it to Microsoft with a fee (can't remember how much) so they can make sure it doesn't do anything crazy like add a Linux partition or anything. Then they send it back to you, signed, and you can mass-produce it. Having it for free isn't too great of a problem itself, but it's sort of a trap for Windows users to prevent them from developing things in competing OSes. I'm sure it works great (just a guess, never used it before) under Windows, so perhaps if someone wrote their code in emacs or vi, then ported it to Windows, it would make things a tad easier, unless Microsoft is fighting those languages. -Brian Swaney NOTE: If you respond to this e-mail, please use your OSU-provided address, unless otherwise specified. In order to block spam, any e-mails sent here without an osu.edu or xxx.ohio-state.edu domain will not be received and the sender can expect returned mail. If you do not have an OSU address, I have probably already added you to a "trusted senders" list, and you should be able to continue communications as normal. In the event that you do not have an OSU address, and cannot reach me, please send an e-mail to my address of Lavagolemking@aol.com letting me know who you are, what you need to reach me for, and what addresses you're using so I can unblock them. Please also note that sending OSU mail from a GMail account will show up as the GMail account. If the GMail account is not on a trusted senders list, even if the From: address is trusted, the message will not be delivered. If you encounter this, please send your first e-mail from https://webmail.osu.edu/ and in that e-mail tell me the GMail address you are using, and I will whitelist it. All following messages may then be sent from either the GMail or OSU account. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Marc Uhrich wrote: > They have been giving out the "express" version of Visual Studio and SQL > Server. However, these products have limited functionality and some > other unhappy restrictions. Also, 2008 doesn't have an express version > at this time. > > Additionally, you can get a trial version of Windows Server 2003 to run > for free but unless you want to crack it or reinstall every 90 (or 120 I > can't remember) days it isn't really an option. So having your own key > is handy. > > Finally, I don't know a ton about the XNA Game Studio. However, I do > know that there is some limitation to deploying games unless you have a > subscription to the Creators Club. DreamSpark offers a yearly > subscription for free, so that's nice. > > All in all, if you must dance with the devil from time to time having > access to this software for free is a nice treat. Peter is right that > purchasing all of this would be extremely expensive. > > I read somewhere that people were turned off to open source software > because it's free and if they could get a pay product for free there > would be more of a perceived value. The get what you pay for argument > may be steering people off track in relation to open source. I'm not > saying it's true, but it is interesting to think about. > Marc Uhrich > Systems Engineer @ OSU Graduate School > 247 University Hall, 230 N Oval Mall > Columbus, Ohio 43210 > (614) 292-0600 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Swaney [mailto:swaney.29@osu.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:20 PM > To: Marc Uhrich > Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > Subject: Re: [opensource] Microsoft Dreamspark > > Haven't they been doing this for a while with C# and whatnot? Isn't this > > what their new "cross-platform" XNA thing is ntSig talked about last > quarter? If you read its license agreement, it requires that you agree > never to port it to a non-Microsoft OS in return for being able to make > your own XBox games (the multiple platoforms being different versions of > > Windows, alongside the XBox as another OS). > > -Brian Swaney > > NOTE: If you respond to this e-mail, please use your OSU-provided > address, > unless otherwise specified. In order to block spam, any e-mails sent > here > without an osu.edu or xxx.ohio-state.edu domain will not be received and > > the sender can expect returned mail. If you do not have an OSU address, > I > have probably already added you to a "trusted senders" list, and you > should be able to continue communications as normal. In the event that > you do not have an OSU address, and cannot reach me, please send an > e-mail > to my address of Lavagolemking@aol.com letting me know who you are, what > > you need to reach me for, and what addresses you're using so I can > unblock > them. > > Please also note that sending OSU mail from a GMail account will show up > as the GMail account. If the GMail account is not on a trusted senders > list, even if the From: address is trusted, the message will not be > delivered. If you encounter this, please send your first e-mail from > https://webmail.osu.edu/ and in that e-mail tell me the GMail address > you > are using, and I will whitelist it. All following messages may then be > sent from either the GMail or OSU account. Sorry for any inconvenience > this may have caused. > > > > Marc Uhrich wrote: > >> Microsoft is now offering their developer and design tools to students >> > > >> at no charge. Since this is a mailing list of developers, I thought it >> > > >> might be a nice opportunity for people to get their hands on SQL >> Server 2005 Developer Edition, Visual Studio 2008 or Windows Server >> > 2003. > >> In order to relate this to the topic of open source, I'd have to say >> it is an ingenuous tactic by Microsoft to try to hook the kids while >> they're young. I know many developers that stuck with open source or >> portable languages exclusively because they grew proficient with them >> in college. Developers who only know how to use Microsoft products >> will require businesses to purchase at the very least a server product >> > > >> and a copy of the developer product. Seems like the empire is striking >> > > >> back...... >> >> Linkage >> >> https://downloads.channel8.msdn.com/Products.aspx >> >> Marc Uhrich >> >> Systems Engineer @ OSU Graduate School >> >> 247 University Hall, 230 N Oval Mall >> >> Columbus, Ohio 43210 >> >> (614) 292-0600 >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensource mailing list >> Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu >> http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource >> >> From silas.baronda at gmail.com Fri Feb 22 15:12:08 2008 From: silas.baronda at gmail.com (Silas Baronda) Date: Fri Feb 22 15:12:22 2008 Subject: [opensource] regex help! Message-ID: <3977537a0802221212q457116dcue6e58b372e2c1449@mail.gmail.com> I'm looking for a regex that will match say baronda.2 so just string.xxxx x's being integers. From triest.1 at osu.edu Fri Feb 22 15:37:40 2008 From: triest.1 at osu.edu (William (Bill) E. Triest III) Date: Fri Feb 22 15:36:33 2008 Subject: [opensource] regex help! In-Reply-To: <3977537a0802221212q457116dcue6e58b372e2c1449@mail.gmail.com> References: <3977537a0802221212q457116dcue6e58b372e2c1449@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BF3294.2060403@osu.edu> Silas, What are you doing this in? Generically try [a-zA-Z]+\.[0-9]+ Some languages support shortcuts, so in perl you could use \w+\.\d+ Basically it says one more characters in that are upper or lower case letters or a digit (the perl one also includes underscore _ ) then a period (its a back slash then a period because . has a special meaning in regex's) and then one or more digits. This is all untested and has absolutely no warranty of any kind. Hope this helps, Bill Silas Baronda wrote: > I'm looking for a regex that will match say baronda.2 so just > string.xxxx x's being integers. > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > From triest.1 at osu.edu Fri Feb 22 15:55:48 2008 From: triest.1 at osu.edu (William (Bill) E. Triest III) Date: Fri Feb 22 15:54:39 2008 Subject: [opensource] regex help! In-Reply-To: <3977537a0802221212q457116dcue6e58b372e2c1449@mail.gmail.com> References: <3977537a0802221212q457116dcue6e58b372e2c1449@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BF36D4.6060707@osu.edu> All, Sorry for replying to my own message. I made an error in my first post, so I thought I should clarify it. Previously I said that the first grouping would allow numbers, but that was only true for the perl regex. I also realized I didn't explain why it matched very well nor did I point out that it would actually match any string containing that substring. The problem with what I've provided so far is that it could match 12baronda.2foo because it contains a matching substring. In perl you could fix this by perpending the regex with ^ and ending it with $ and according to wikipedia that's true for POSIX regex's but it may not be the case for all regex implementations. Generically: [a-zA-Z]+\.[0-9]+ Also, I think some lastname.n's include hyphens, so you'll want to add them into the regex if that's really what you are trying to match. Also, depending on what you're trying to do with this, I think there are OSU identifiers can take other forms, although it rare (I know magnus definately can, but I thought some of the newer ones could also). If that's what you are trying to match I would suggest trying: [a-zA-Z\-]+\.[0-9]+ I'll break it down to explain: [a-zA-Z\-]+ [] are grouping, and a-z says lowercase letters, A-Z upper case letters I'm not positive on the \- for including the literal hyphen, but try it. If you only want lowercase letters then just put [a-z] The + at the end tells it to have one or more matching in that group \. (backslash then a period) means period (backslash to escape it so that its a literal period since period has a special meaning in regex's) [0-9]+ is another character grouping, but this time only digits. Again the + means one or more numbers tcut. Hope this helps and sorry for multiple posts, Bill Silas Baronda wrote: > I'm looking for a regex that will match say baronda.2 so just > string.xxxx x's being integers. > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > From bill at interhack.com Fri Feb 22 16:06:36 2008 From: bill at interhack.com (Bill Anderson) Date: Fri Feb 22 16:06:51 2008 Subject: [opensource] regex help! In-Reply-To: <47BF3294.2060403@osu.edu> References: <3977537a0802221212q457116dcue6e58b372e2c1449@mail.gmail.com> <47BF3294.2060403@osu.edu> Message-ID: > What are you doing this in? Generically try [a-zA-Z]+\.[0-9]+ Some > languages support shortcuts, so in perl you could use \w+\.\d+ That will work if you don't care to get anything from anyone with a hyphenated last name. :) From swaney.29 at osu.edu Fri Feb 22 17:11:44 2008 From: swaney.29 at osu.edu (Brian Swaney) Date: Fri Feb 22 17:11:57 2008 Subject: [opensource] regex help! In-Reply-To: <47BF36D4.6060707@osu.edu> References: <3977537a0802221212q457116dcue6e58b372e2c1449@mail.gmail.com> <47BF36D4.6060707@osu.edu> Message-ID: <47BF48A0.10608@osu.edu> There is a potential for other, rarer characters. I know of at least 1 case where someone's OSU username, which is not in the standard format or magnus, contains the '+' character. Of course, it may be better to simply make a workaround for administrators. -Brian Swaney NOTE: If you respond to this e-mail, please use your OSU-provided address, unless otherwise specified. In order to block spam, any e-mails sent here without an osu.edu or xxx.ohio-state.edu domain will not be received and the sender can expect returned mail. If you do not have an OSU address, I have probably already added you to a "trusted senders" list, and you should be able to continue communications as normal. In the event that you do not have an OSU address, and cannot reach me, please send an e-mail to my address of Lavagolemking@aol.com letting me know who you are, what you need to reach me for, and what addresses you're using so I can unblock them. Please also note that sending OSU mail from a GMail account will show up as the GMail account. If the GMail account is not on a trusted senders list, even if the From: address is trusted, the message will not be delivered. If you encounter this, please send your first e-mail from https://webmail.osu.edu/ and in that e-mail tell me the GMail address you are using, and I will whitelist it. All following messages may then be sent from either the GMail or OSU account. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. William (Bill) E. Triest III wrote: > All, > > Sorry for replying to my own message. I made an error in my first > post, so I thought I should clarify it. Previously I said that the > first grouping would allow numbers, but that was only true for the > perl regex. I also realized I didn't explain why it matched very well > nor did I point out that it would actually match any string containing > that substring. > > The problem with what I've provided so far is that it could match > 12baronda.2foo because it contains a matching substring. In perl you > could fix this by perpending the regex with ^ and ending it with $ and > according to wikipedia that's true for POSIX regex's but it may not be > the case for all regex implementations. > > Generically: [a-zA-Z]+\.[0-9]+ > > Also, I think some lastname.n's include hyphens, so you'll want to add > them into the regex if that's really what you are trying to match. > Also, depending on what you're trying to do with this, I think there > are OSU identifiers can take other forms, although it rare (I know > magnus definately can, but I thought some of the newer ones could > also). If that's what you are trying to match I would suggest trying: > [a-zA-Z\-]+\.[0-9]+ > > I'll break it down to explain: > > [a-zA-Z\-]+ > [] are grouping, and a-z says lowercase letters, A-Z upper case > letters I'm not positive on the \- for including the literal hyphen, > but try it. If you only want lowercase letters then just put [a-z] > The + at the end tells it to have one or more matching in that group > > \. (backslash then a period) means period (backslash to escape it so > that its a literal period since period has a special meaning in regex's) > [0-9]+ is another character grouping, but this time only digits. > Again the + means one or more numbers > tcut. > > > Hope this helps and sorry for multiple posts, > Bill > > Silas Baronda wrote: >> I'm looking for a regex that will match say baronda.2 so just >> string.xxxx x's being integers. >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensource mailing list >> Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu >> http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource >> > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource From jensen.116 at osu.edu Fri Feb 22 17:14:09 2008 From: jensen.116 at osu.edu (daniel jensen) Date: Fri Feb 22 17:14:24 2008 Subject: [opensource] C++ IDE for Linux Message-ID: <47BF4931.40303@osu.edu> All- I have to develop some programs in c++... Since we all are running Linux I would like to ask which IDE is preferred for programming in our Linux environment??? Thanks - Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20080222/b3459160/attachment-0001.html From bergman.77 at osu.edu Fri Feb 22 18:09:13 2008 From: bergman.77 at osu.edu (Shain Bergman) Date: Fri Feb 22 18:09:30 2008 Subject: [opensource] C++ IDE for Linux In-Reply-To: <47BF4931.40303@osu.edu> References: <47BF4931.40303@osu.edu> Message-ID: I have used Komodo for development in Linux for C++. It's not open source. The product is made by Borland. Cheers, --Shain On 2/22/08, daniel jensen wrote: > > All- > I have to develop some programs in c++... Since we all are running > Linux I would like to ask which IDE is preferred for programming in our > Linux environment??? > > Thanks - Daniel > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > > -- Shain Bergman TA for CS&E 459.23 bergman.77@osu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20080222/5241ab41/attachment.html From wrl at express.org Fri Feb 22 18:47:35 2008 From: wrl at express.org (William R. Lorenz) Date: Fri Feb 22 18:47:49 2008 Subject: [opensource] C++ IDE for Linux In-Reply-To: <47BF4931.40303@osu.edu> References: <47BF4931.40303@osu.edu> Message-ID: Hi Daniel, On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, daniel jensen wrote: > I have to develop some programs in c++... Since we all are running > Linux I would like to ask which IDE is preferred for programming in our > Linux environment??? You might want to consider KDevelop and/or Eclipse, which can do C++. -- William R. Lorenz From swaney.29 at osu.edu Fri Feb 22 19:54:01 2008 From: swaney.29 at osu.edu (Brian Swaney) Date: Fri Feb 22 19:54:14 2008 Subject: [opensource] Office Computer Name In-Reply-To: <240a31830802201852w4275d338j7083aacfa0e19b36@mail.gmail.com> References: <454FBB31.7020100@cse.ohio-state.edu> <1162917841.12217.18.camel@persephone> <240a31830802201852w4275d338j7083aacfa0e19b36@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BF6EA9.2090608@osu.edu> In order to determine the name for our new desktop, I set up a poll on our website, opensource.cse.ohio-state.edu. If anyone can think of another name to add to the list, please let me know. There are a few new services set up there as well, including a forum (opensource.cse.ohio-state.edu/forum or click forums on the right column), and an online version of the FreeDisk mentioned sometime from late last year to the end of the summer (opensource.cse.ohio-state.edu/freedisk or click Opensource Projects --> FreeDisk on the right column). Great for Windows users looking to experiment with some open source software, both new and veterans. I spent a while cleaning up spam and removing users who sent excessive spam as well. As a preventative measure, you will need a *.edu address to register (if you are already registered, then you should be fine). That should hold off additional spamming accounts for now. The site is still open to non-students, so if that means you and you still wish to sign in, let me or Peter know and we'll work it out from there to get you an account. -Brian Swaney NOTE: If you respond to this e-mail, please use your OSU-provided address, unless otherwise specified. In order to block spam, any e-mails sent here without an osu.edu or xxx.ohio-state.edu domain will not be received and the sender can expect returned mail. If you do not have an OSU address, I have probably already added you to a "trusted senders" list, and you should be able to continue communications as normal. In the event that you do not have an OSU address, and cannot reach me, please send an e-mail to my address of Lavagolemking@aol.com letting me know who you are, what you need to reach me for, and what addresses you're using so I can unblock them. Please also note that sending OSU mail from a GMail account will show up as the GMail account. If the GMail account is not on a trusted senders list, even if the From: address is trusted, the message will not be delivered. If you encounter this, please send your first e-mail from https://webmail.osu.edu/ and in that e-mail tell me the GMail address you are using, and I will whitelist it. All following messages may then be sent from either the GMail or OSU account. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Peter Dietz wrote: > Hey Everybody, > > Last year Jim started a little naming contest for our lab computer, > where we ended up renaming last year's computer 'dl190' as stallman. > We now have a new computer this year, and will soon be outfitting our > lab with another new desktop, and a laptop for demo'ing. > > The naming scheme in use thus far is famous computer scientists, I > would like to add contributors to the free software or opensource > movement, in addition, any other good names for a computer. > > My (personal) list is > Shuttleworth - canonical / ubuntu > Linus Torvalds > Behlendorf - apache* > *Lessig - creative commons > O'Reilly - tech books > > But, there certainly are better names, so feel free to send in your > own pick to this list. And we'll be choosing a name once we've settled > on one, or three. > > and read below for a snip of last years postings on this subject... > > Forwarded conversation > Subject: *[opensource] Office Computer Name* > ------------------------ > > From: *james scott dinan* > > Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 9:00 PM > To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > Hey All, > > We've decided on a naming scheme for the club computers: we're going to > name them after famous computer scientists. > > Here are some names that were suggested: > > Turing > Dijkstra > Phong > Tomasulo > Floyd > Ritchie > Kernigham > Thompson > Licklider or "Lick" > > Any other suggestions? We'll be renaming "dl190" next week so make your > opinions known! > > Cheers, > Jim. > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > ---------- > From: *Steven James Samuel Stapleton* > > Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 9:21 PM > To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > Where's Turing? How about Bell? > > -Jim Stapleton > ---------- > From: *Nick Hurley* > > Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 10:34 PM > To: james scott dinan > > Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > james scott dinan > writes: > > Kernigham > > I belive you mean "Kernighan", ending in an 'n', not an 'm'. > -- > Peace, > Nick > > Life is full of surprises but never when you need one. > -- Calvin > ---------- > From: *Karen Manukyan* > > Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 10:40 PM > To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > Stroustrup > He invented my favorite programming language C++ :)) > ---------- > From: *Peter Dietz* > > Date: Fri, Nov 3, 2006 at 1:57 AM > To: manukyan@cse.ohio-state.edu > Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > My votes for Lick, > For those of you who don't know of him, he wrote a paper on > man-machine symbiosis, and was instrumental in development of the > DARPA/ARPA project that eventually became the internet. > -- > > Peter Dietz > Student / Technologist > > www.eclectech.us ---------- > From: *Cosmin Roman* > > Date: Fri, Nov 3, 2006 at 10:21 AM > To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > I would favor von Neumann > > but from my own experience I know how difficult it is to use the 'von' > particle :) > > and would Torvalds be out-of-line? :P > > C. > ---------- > From: *James Dinan* > > Date: Mon, Nov 6, 2006 at 5:46 PM > To: Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > Still working on the newsgroup problem. Forwarded post follows: > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [opensource] Office Computer Name > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 07:54:51 -0500 > From: B A Bair > > > Ahem... > Where's the first programmer, Ada Lovelace? or the inventor of the > compiler, Grace Hopper? > > How about the original six Eniac programmers, Kathleen McNulty Mauchly > Antonelli, Jean Jennings Bartik, Frances Snyder Holberton, Marlyn > Wescoff Meltzer, Frances Bilas Spence and Ruth Lichterman Teitelbaum? > Lots of good name possibilities there. > > For fun, you should also look up Radia Perlman, Jean E Sammet, Sally > Floyd, Barbara Liskov, and Irma Wyman. > > And if you're interested in living pioneers, ACM just inducted Susan > Landau (Sun) and Tracy Camp (Colorado School of Mines) into their roster > of distinguished computer engineers. > > My personal hero(ine) is Helen Grenier. > > :-) > Bettina > ---------- > From: *Paul Betts* > > Date: Tue, Nov 7, 2006 at 11:44 AM > To: bbair@cse.ohio-state.edu , Alex > Lingo > > Cc: Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > In this, I propose a deal: The OSUOSS club will name one of their PCs > Lovelace if you (Bettina) encourage ACM-W members to attend an OSUOSS > meeting. Personally, I think it's a win-win situation, as both of our > organizations are trying to get students excited about computer science, > so the more people we can get, the better! This department has far too > many students who aren't learning about what's cool and new about their > field, especially wrt women in computer science; I think that a lot of > CSE student organizations from the outside seem like "boys clubs" and > I'd like to see that go straight out the window, at least with OSUOSS. > We include _everyone_, regardless of how technical you are or anything > else, we definitely have topics for everyone, and if we don't, anyone > can make their own presentation on what they're interested in! > > -- > Paul Betts > > > > > -- > == > Peter Dietz > > Computer & Information Science -- The Ohio State University > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > From dinan at cse.ohio-state.edu Fri Feb 22 23:32:09 2008 From: dinan at cse.ohio-state.edu (Jim Dinan) Date: Fri Feb 22 23:32:30 2008 Subject: [opensource] C++ IDE for Linux In-Reply-To: References: <47BF4931.40303@osu.edu> Message-ID: <47BFA1C9.3010007@cse.ohio-state.edu> William R. Lorenz wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, daniel jensen wrote: > >> I have to develop some programs in c++... Since we all are >> running Linux I would like to ask which IDE is preferred for >> programming in our Linux environment??? > > You might want to consider KDevelop and/or Eclipse, which can do C++. I've also heard good things about Anjuta, which is the Gnome equivalent of Kdevelop. ~jim. From silas.baronda at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 12:30:03 2008 From: silas.baronda at gmail.com (Silas Baronda) Date: Sat Feb 23 12:30:18 2008 Subject: [opensource] regex help! In-Reply-To: <47BF36D4.6060707@osu.edu> References: <3977537a0802221212q457116dcue6e58b372e2c1449@mail.gmail.com> <47BF36D4.6060707@osu.edu> Message-ID: <3977537a0802230930k7185463bs443f652de8cb99b0@mail.gmail.com> Wow thanks a bunch. That was way easier than I thought. I'm doing this in python so I'm guessing that it will work like other POSIX systems. On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:55 PM, William (Bill) E. Triest III wrote: > All, > > Sorry for replying to my own message. I made an error in my first post, > so I thought I should clarify it. Previously I said that the first > grouping would allow numbers, but that was only true for the perl > regex. I also realized I didn't explain why it matched very well nor > did I point out that it would actually match any string containing that > substring. > > The problem with what I've provided so far is that it could match > 12baronda.2foo because it contains a matching substring. In perl you > could fix this by perpending the regex with ^ and ending it with $ and > according to wikipedia that's true for POSIX regex's but it may not be > the case for all regex implementations. > > Generically: [a-zA-Z]+\.[0-9]+ > > Also, I think some lastname.n's include hyphens, so you'll want to add > them into the regex if that's really what you are trying to match. > Also, depending on what you're trying to do with this, I think there are > OSU identifiers can take other forms, although it rare (I know magnus > definately can, but I thought some of the newer ones could also). If > that's what you are trying to match I would suggest trying: > > [a-zA-Z\-]+\.[0-9]+ > > I'll break it down to explain: > > [a-zA-Z\-]+ > [] are grouping, and a-z says lowercase letters, A-Z upper case letters > I'm not positive on the \- for including the literal hyphen, but try > it. If you only want lowercase letters then just put [a-z] The + at the > end tells it to have one or more matching in that group > > \. (backslash then a period) means period (backslash to escape it so > that its a literal period since period has a special meaning in regex's) > [0-9]+ is another character grouping, but this time only digits. Again > the + means one or more numbers > tcut. > > > Hope this helps and sorry for multiple posts, > Bill > > > Silas Baronda wrote: > > I'm looking for a regex that will match say baronda.2 so just > > string.xxxx x's being integers. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Opensource mailing list > > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > > > > From silas.baronda at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 12:33:15 2008 From: silas.baronda at gmail.com (Silas Baronda) Date: Sat Feb 23 12:38:01 2008 Subject: [opensource] C++ IDE for Linux In-Reply-To: <47BF4931.40303@osu.edu> References: <47BF4931.40303@osu.edu> Message-ID: <3977537a0802230933r546f3228n8f14abc53b3ed4a2@mail.gmail.com> It really matters how big my project is. If it is < 10 files then I will end up using vim but it is > 10 then I will end up using a IDE that has a proven track record like eclipse. On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:14 PM, daniel jensen wrote: > > All- > I have to develop some programs in c++... Since we all are running > Linux I would like to ask which IDE is preferred for programming in our > Linux environment??? > > Thanks - Daniel > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > > From silas.baronda at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 12:45:42 2008 From: silas.baronda at gmail.com (Silas Baronda) Date: Sat Feb 23 12:46:23 2008 Subject: [opensource] Office Computer Name In-Reply-To: <240a31830802201852w4275d338j7083aacfa0e19b36@mail.gmail.com> References: <454FBB31.7020100@cse.ohio-state.edu> <1162917841.12217.18.camel@persephone> <240a31830802201852w4275d338j7083aacfa0e19b36@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3977537a0802230945m44e72c4ch8401e39768116e2@mail.gmail.com> I recently had to think of a naming scheme for my servers so I have a good starting point for this. Here are some ideas. greak gods, cities, (some sound cool. Think of AMD processor names) stars, or planet names, car names, (Yukon, etc.) trees, (Redwood, maple) .., vampire names, (I have no idea of examples for this one but sounds funny) Airport names, Different Devil names, (lucifer) serial murders. On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Peter Dietz wrote: > Hey Everybody, > > Last year Jim started a little naming contest for our lab computer, where we > ended up renaming last year's computer 'dl190' as stallman. We now have a > new computer this year, and will soon be outfitting our lab with another new > desktop, and a laptop for demo'ing. > > The naming scheme in use thus far is famous computer scientists, I would > like to add contributors to the free software or opensource movement, in > addition, any other good names for a computer. > > My (personal) list is > Shuttleworth - canonical / ubuntu > Linus Torvalds > Behlendorf - apache > Lessig - creative commons > O'Reilly - tech books > > But, there certainly are better names, so feel free to send in your own pick > to this list. And we'll be choosing a name once we've settled on one, or > three. > > and read below for a snip of last years postings on this subject... > > Forwarded conversation > Subject: [opensource] Office Computer Name > ------------------------ > > From: james scott dinan > Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 9:00 PM > To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > Hey All, > > We've decided on a naming scheme for the club computers: we're going to > name them after famous computer scientists. > > Here are some names that were suggested: > > Turing > Dijkstra > Phong > Tomasulo > Floyd > Ritchie > Kernigham > Thompson > Licklider or "Lick" > > Any other suggestions? We'll be renaming "dl190" next week so make your > opinions known! > > Cheers, > Jim. > > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > ---------- > From: Steven James Samuel Stapleton > Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 9:21 PM > To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > Where's Turing? How about Bell? > > -Jim Stapleton > > ---------- > From: Nick Hurley > Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 10:34 PM > To: james scott dinan > Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > james scott dinan writes: > > Kernigham > > I belive you mean "Kernighan", ending in an 'n', not an 'm'. > -- > Peace, > Nick > > Life is full of surprises but never when you need one. > -- Calvin > > ---------- > From: Karen Manukyan > Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 10:40 PM > To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > Stroustrup > He invented my favorite programming language C++ :)) > > ---------- > From: Peter Dietz > Date: Fri, Nov 3, 2006 at 1:57 AM > To: manukyan@cse.ohio-state.edu > Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > My votes for Lick, > For those of you who don't know of him, he wrote a paper on man-machine > symbiosis, and was instrumental in development of the DARPA/ARPA project > that eventually became the internet. > > -- > > Peter Dietz > Student / Technologist > > www.eclectech.us ---------- > From: Cosmin Roman > Date: Fri, Nov 3, 2006 at 10:21 AM > To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > I would favor von Neumann > > but from my own experience I know how difficult it is to use the 'von' > particle :) > > and would Torvalds be out-of-line? :P > > C. > > ---------- > From: James Dinan > Date: Mon, Nov 6, 2006 at 5:46 PM > To: Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > Still working on the newsgroup problem. Forwarded post follows: > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [opensource] Office Computer Name > Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 07:54:51 -0500 > From: B A Bair > > Ahem... > Where's the first programmer, Ada Lovelace? or the inventor of the > compiler, Grace Hopper? > > How about the original six Eniac programmers, Kathleen McNulty Mauchly > Antonelli, Jean Jennings Bartik, Frances Snyder Holberton, Marlyn > Wescoff Meltzer, Frances Bilas Spence and Ruth Lichterman Teitelbaum? > Lots of good name possibilities there. > > For fun, you should also look up Radia Perlman, Jean E Sammet, Sally > Floyd, Barbara Liskov, and Irma Wyman. > > And if you're interested in living pioneers, ACM just inducted Susan > Landau (Sun) and Tracy Camp (Colorado School of Mines) into their roster > of distinguished computer engineers. > > My personal hero(ine) is Helen Grenier. > > :-) > Bettina > > ---------- > From: Paul Betts > Date: Tue, Nov 7, 2006 at 11:44 AM > To: bbair@cse.ohio-state.edu, Alex Lingo > Cc: Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > > In this, I propose a deal: The OSUOSS club will name one of their PCs > Lovelace if you (Bettina) encourage ACM-W members to attend an OSUOSS > meeting. Personally, I think it's a win-win situation, as both of our > organizations are trying to get students excited about computer science, > so the more people we can get, the better! This department has far too > many students who aren't learning about what's cool and new about their > field, especially wrt women in computer science; I think that a lot of > CSE student organizations from the outside seem like "boys clubs" and > I'd like to see that go straight out the window, at least with OSUOSS. > We include _everyone_, regardless of how technical you are or anything > else, we definitely have topics for everyone, and if we don't, anyone > can make their own presentation on what they're interested in! > > -- > Paul Betts > > > > > -- > == > Peter Dietz > > Computer & Information Science -- The Ohio State University > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > > From swaney.29 at osu.edu Sat Feb 23 13:15:16 2008 From: swaney.29 at osu.edu (Brian Swaney) Date: Sat Feb 23 13:15:29 2008 Subject: [opensource] Office Computer Name In-Reply-To: <3977537a0802230945m44e72c4ch8401e39768116e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <454FBB31.7020100@cse.ohio-state.edu> <1162917841.12217.18.camel@persephone> <240a31830802201852w4275d338j7083aacfa0e19b36@mail.gmail.com> <3977537a0802230945m44e72c4ch8401e39768116e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47C062B4.5050104@osu.edu> I believe Peter was focusing on a theme of famous computer programmers, such as Torvalds. If there is anyone else who wants some of these names (specific names) added to the poll I will gladly add them though. -Brian Swaney NOTE: If you respond to this e-mail, please use your OSU-provided address, unless otherwise specified. In order to block spam, any e-mails sent here without an osu.edu or xxx.ohio-state.edu domain will not be received and the sender can expect returned mail. If you do not have an OSU address, I have probably already added you to a "trusted senders" list, and you should be able to continue communications as normal. In the event that you do not have an OSU address, and cannot reach me, please send an e-mail to my address of Lavagolemking@aol.com letting me know who you are, what you need to reach me for, and what addresses you're using so I can unblock them. Please also note that sending OSU mail from a GMail account will show up as the GMail account. If the GMail account is not on a trusted senders list, even if the From: address is trusted, the message will not be delivered. If you encounter this, please send your first e-mail from https://webmail.osu.edu/ and in that e-mail tell me the GMail address you are using, and I will whitelist it. All following messages may then be sent from either the GMail or OSU account. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Silas Baronda wrote: > I recently had to think of a naming scheme for my servers so I have a > good starting point for this. > Here are some ideas. > > greak gods, > cities, (some sound cool. Think of AMD processor names) > stars, or planet names, > car names, (Yukon, etc.) > trees, (Redwood, maple) > .., > vampire names, (I have no idea of examples for this one but sounds funny) > Airport names, > Different Devil names, (lucifer) > serial murders. > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Peter Dietz wrote: > >> Hey Everybody, >> >> Last year Jim started a little naming contest for our lab computer, where we >> ended up renaming last year's computer 'dl190' as stallman. We now have a >> new computer this year, and will soon be outfitting our lab with another new >> desktop, and a laptop for demo'ing. >> >> The naming scheme in use thus far is famous computer scientists, I would >> like to add contributors to the free software or opensource movement, in >> addition, any other good names for a computer. >> >> My (personal) list is >> Shuttleworth - canonical / ubuntu >> Linus Torvalds >> Behlendorf - apache >> Lessig - creative commons >> O'Reilly - tech books >> >> But, there certainly are better names, so feel free to send in your own pick >> to this list. And we'll be choosing a name once we've settled on one, or >> three. >> >> and read below for a snip of last years postings on this subject... >> >> Forwarded conversation >> Subject: [opensource] Office Computer Name >> ------------------------ >> >> From: james scott dinan >> Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 9:00 PM >> To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu >> >> >> Hey All, >> >> We've decided on a naming scheme for the club computers: we're going to >> name them after famous computer scientists. >> >> Here are some names that were suggested: >> >> Turing >> Dijkstra >> Phong >> Tomasulo >> Floyd >> Ritchie >> Kernigham >> Thompson >> Licklider or "Lick" >> >> Any other suggestions? We'll be renaming "dl190" next week so make your >> opinions known! >> >> Cheers, >> Jim. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensource mailing list >> Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu >> http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource >> ---------- >> From: Steven James Samuel Stapleton >> Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 9:21 PM >> To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu >> >> >> Where's Turing? How about Bell? >> >> -Jim Stapleton >> >> ---------- >> From: Nick Hurley >> Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 10:34 PM >> To: james scott dinan >> Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu >> >> >> james scott dinan writes: >> > Kernigham >> >> I belive you mean "Kernighan", ending in an 'n', not an 'm'. >> -- >> Peace, >> Nick >> >> Life is full of surprises but never when you need one. >> -- Calvin >> >> ---------- >> From: Karen Manukyan >> Date: Thu, Nov 2, 2006 at 10:40 PM >> To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu >> >> >> Stroustrup >> He invented my favorite programming language C++ :)) >> >> ---------- >> From: Peter Dietz >> Date: Fri, Nov 3, 2006 at 1:57 AM >> To: manukyan@cse.ohio-state.edu >> Cc: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu >> >> >> My votes for Lick, >> For those of you who don't know of him, he wrote a paper on man-machine >> symbiosis, and was instrumental in development of the DARPA/ARPA project >> that eventually became the internet. >> >> -- >> >> Peter Dietz >> Student / Technologist >> >> www.eclectech.us ---------- >> From: Cosmin Roman >> Date: Fri, Nov 3, 2006 at 10:21 AM >> To: opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu >> >> >> I would favor von Neumann >> >> but from my own experience I know how difficult it is to use the 'von' >> particle :) >> >> and would Torvalds be out-of-line? :P >> >> C. >> >> ---------- >> From: James Dinan >> Date: Mon, Nov 6, 2006 at 5:46 PM >> To: Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu >> >> >> Still working on the newsgroup problem. Forwarded post follows: >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [opensource] Office Computer Name >> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 07:54:51 -0500 >> From: B A Bair >> >> Ahem... >> Where's the first programmer, Ada Lovelace? or the inventor of the >> compiler, Grace Hopper? >> >> How about the original six Eniac programmers, Kathleen McNulty Mauchly >> Antonelli, Jean Jennings Bartik, Frances Snyder Holberton, Marlyn >> Wescoff Meltzer, Frances Bilas Spence and Ruth Lichterman Teitelbaum? >> Lots of good name possibilities there. >> >> For fun, you should also look up Radia Perlman, Jean E Sammet, Sally >> Floyd, Barbara Liskov, and Irma Wyman. >> >> And if you're interested in living pioneers, ACM just inducted Susan >> Landau (Sun) and Tracy Camp (Colorado School of Mines) into their roster >> of distinguished computer engineers. >> >> My personal hero(ine) is Helen Grenier. >> >> :-) >> Bettina >> >> ---------- >> From: Paul Betts >> Date: Tue, Nov 7, 2006 at 11:44 AM >> To: bbair@cse.ohio-state.edu, Alex Lingo >> Cc: Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu >> >> >> In this, I propose a deal: The OSUOSS club will name one of their PCs >> Lovelace if you (Bettina) encourage ACM-W members to attend an OSUOSS >> meeting. Personally, I think it's a win-win situation, as both of our >> organizations are trying to get students excited about computer science, >> so the more people we can get, the better! This department has far too >> many students who aren't learning about what's cool and new about their >> field, especially wrt women in computer science; I think that a lot of >> CSE student organizations from the outside seem like "boys clubs" and >> I'd like to see that go straight out the window, at least with OSUOSS. >> We include _everyone_, regardless of how technical you are or anything >> else, we definitely have topics for everyone, and if we don't, anyone >> can make their own presentation on what they're interested in! >> >> -- >> Paul Betts >> >> >> >> >> -- >> == >> Peter Dietz >> >> Computer & Information Science -- The Ohio State University >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensource mailing list >> Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu >> http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > From silas.baronda at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 18:06:36 2008 From: silas.baronda at gmail.com (Silas Baronda) Date: Mon Feb 25 18:06:55 2008 Subject: [opensource] Logo for Open Source Club? Message-ID: <3977537a0802251506j6b18773u1d9525a6b2531272@mail.gmail.com> Do we have a logo that I could get my hands on easily? From swaney.29 at osu.edu Mon Feb 25 18:44:55 2008 From: swaney.29 at osu.edu (Brian Swaney) Date: Mon Feb 25 18:45:08 2008 Subject: [opensource] Logo for Open Source Club? In-Reply-To: <3977537a0802251506j6b18773u1d9525a6b2531272@mail.gmail.com> References: <3977537a0802251506j6b18773u1d9525a6b2531272@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47C352F7.8030009@osu.edu> It's on our website. http://opensource.cse.ohio-state.edu/opensource_logo_banner_white_850.png There may also have been a banner we used for a few events in the lab somewhere if that's not large enough. -Brian Swaney NOTE: If you respond to this e-mail, please use your OSU-provided address, unless otherwise specified. In order to block spam, any e-mails sent here without an osu.edu or xxx.ohio-state.edu domain will not be received and the sender can expect returned mail. If you do not have an OSU address, I have probably already added you to a "trusted senders" list, and you should be able to continue communications as normal. In the event that you do not have an OSU address, and cannot reach me, please send an e-mail to my address of Lavagolemking@aol.com letting me know who you are, what you need to reach me for, and what addresses you're using so I can unblock them. Please also note that sending OSU mail from a GMail account will show up as the GMail account. If the GMail account is not on a trusted senders list, even if the From: address is trusted, the message will not be delivered. If you encounter this, please send your first e-mail from https://webmail.osu.edu/ and in that e-mail tell me the GMail address you are using, and I will whitelist it. All following messages may then be sent from either the GMail or OSU account. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Silas Baronda wrote: > Do we have a logo that I could get my hands on easily? > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > From silas.baronda at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 19:47:46 2008 From: silas.baronda at gmail.com (Silas Baronda) Date: Mon Feb 25 19:48:02 2008 Subject: [opensource] Logo for Open Source Club? In-Reply-To: <240a31830802251627t37b909bah10d28d066990abea@mail.gmail.com> References: <3977537a0802251506j6b18773u1d9525a6b2531272@mail.gmail.com> <240a31830802251627t37b909bah10d28d066990abea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3977537a0802251647h4ebf1876wd20ec179645ed51@mail.gmail.com> So that is OUR logo. I thought that was the general OSS logo. The one I was talking about was the one on our banner that Brain linked to. I know that it is just a simple @ but what font and color are used? On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Peter Dietz wrote: > Here are two images/poster > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Silas Baronda > wrote: > > > > Do we have a logo that I could get my hands on easily? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Opensource mailing list > > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > > > > > > -- > == > Peter Dietz > > Computer & Information Science -- The Ohio State University From wrl at express.org Mon Feb 25 20:00:31 2008 From: wrl at express.org (William R. Lorenz) Date: Mon Feb 25 20:00:46 2008 Subject: [opensource] Logo for Open Source Club? In-Reply-To: <3977537a0802251647h4ebf1876wd20ec179645ed51@mail.gmail.com> References: <3977537a0802251506j6b18773u1d9525a6b2531272@mail.gmail.com> <240a31830802251627t37b909bah10d28d066990abea@mail.gmail.com> <3977537a0802251647h4ebf1876wd20ec179645ed51@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Silas Baronda wrote: > So that is OUR logo. I thought that was the general OSS logo. The one > I was talking about was the one on our banner that Brain linked to. I > know that it is just a simple @ but what font and color are used? >> http://opensource.cse.ohio-state.edu/opensource_logo_banner_white_850.png You should be able to use the free GIMP (www.gimp.org) and WhatTheFont (http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/) tools to identify the font/color. Hope this helps, -- William R. Lorenz From swaney.29 at osu.edu Mon Feb 25 21:07:01 2008 From: swaney.29 at osu.edu (Brian Swaney) Date: Mon Feb 25 21:07:15 2008 Subject: [opensource] Logo for Open Source Club? In-Reply-To: <3977537a0802251647h4ebf1876wd20ec179645ed51@mail.gmail.com> References: <3977537a0802251506j6b18773u1d9525a6b2531272@mail.gmail.com> <240a31830802251627t37b909bah10d28d066990abea@mail.gmail.com> <3977537a0802251647h4ebf1876wd20ec179645ed51@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47C37445.4000805@osu.edu> If there is another logo, then we did a very poor job relating it to our club. I asked Peter a similar question some time ago for the FreeDisk and he pointed me to the same place. I included it with a link to our website on the CD. I was going to suggest GIMP, but it appears that someone beat me to it. I'm fairly certain our lab machines have GIMP already installed, as it generally comes with Ubuntu. If anyone else knows of a better one, feel free to contribute, but the best images I know of are on our site and on a poster. Not sure if we still have the poster... -Brian Swaney NOTE: If you respond to this e-mail, please use your OSU-provided address, unless otherwise specified. In order to block spam, any e-mails sent here without an osu.edu or xxx.ohio-state.edu domain will not be received and the sender can expect returned mail. If you do not have an OSU address, I have probably already added you to a "trusted senders" list, and you should be able to continue communications as normal. In the event that you do not have an OSU address, and cannot reach me, please send an e-mail to my address of Lavagolemking@aol.com letting me know who you are, what you need to reach me for, and what addresses you're using so I can unblock them. Please also note that sending OSU mail from a GMail account will show up as the GMail account. If the GMail account is not on a trusted senders list, even if the From: address is trusted, the message will not be delivered. If you encounter this, please send your first e-mail from https://webmail.osu.edu/ and in that e-mail tell me the GMail address you are using, and I will whitelist it. All following messages may then be sent from either the GMail or OSU account. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Silas Baronda wrote: > So that is OUR logo. I thought that was the general OSS logo. The > one I was talking about was the one on our banner that Brain linked > to. I know that it is just a simple @ but what font and color are > used? > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Peter Dietz wrote: > >> Here are two images/poster >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Silas Baronda >> wrote: >> >>> Do we have a logo that I could get my hands on easily? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Opensource mailing list >>> Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu >>> http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource >>> >>> >> >> -- >> == >> Peter Dietz >> >> Computer & Information Science -- The Ohio State University >> > _______________________________________________ > Opensource mailing list > Opensource@cse.ohio-state.edu > http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/opensource > From dietz.72 at osu.edu Mon Feb 25 19:27:03 2008 From: dietz.72 at osu.edu (Peter Dietz) Date: Tue Feb 26 10:50:24 2008 Subject: [opensource] Logo for Open Source Club? In-Reply-To: <3977537a0802251506j6b18773u1d9525a6b2531272@mail.gmail.com> References: <3977537a0802251506j6b18773u1d9525a6b2531272@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <240a31830802251627t37b909bah10d28d066990abea@mail.gmail.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: opensourceposter.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 1149451 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20080225/38e64875/opensourceposter-0001.pdf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Vectorized OSS Poster.svg Type: image/svg+xml Size: 15482 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20080225/38e64875/VectorizedOSSPoster-0001.bin From dietz.72 at osu.edu Tue Feb 26 19:24:36 2008 From: dietz.72 at osu.edu (Peter Dietz) Date: Tue Feb 26 19:24:51 2008 Subject: [opensource] Meeting Announcement: silverlight err rather SilverStripe CMS Message-ID: <240a31830802261624g692b1457pca4105d2e56a498d@mail.gmail.com> Hey everybody, Our meeting this Thursday will have Jim Muir speaking, developing, and teaching about Silverstripe, an open source Content Management System (CMS) he really likes. http://www.silverstripe.com/ When: Thursday Feb 28 2008 @ TBA Where: TBA Pizza: most definitely SilverStripe is an intuitive content management system atop a powerful object oriented MVC programming framework, Sapphire. The framework lets you rapidly code up the "objects" your project uses (e.g. staff members, products, customers, along with their relationships). You then add a few lines of code and find SilverSight has automatically added tables and columns to the database, let you use them in your website templates, and has added new "page types" and fields into the CMS for the content editor to utilise. As we said; stay up late for fun, not for your boss. We've rethought how content editors, developers, and designers should build and manage websites. We've arrived at a unique combination that empowers all three to get their jobs done more quickly and with more flexibility. = SilverStrike was a project of the Google Summer of Code (SoC) and the highly open participation content, and is currently under active development (just hit 50,000 update records). TBA = default plans are thursday Dreese Labs 266 @ 7pm, but I am trying to schedule Scott Labs (SO) 103 for 6pm on thursday because -- == Peter Dietz Computer & Information Science -- The Ohio State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.cse.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/opensource/attachments/20080226/24699789/attachment.html From paul at paulbetts.org Sat Feb 23 16:55:00 2008 From: paul at paulbetts.org (Paul Betts) Date: Thu Feb 28 00:48:36 2008 Subject: [opensource] C++ IDE for Linux In-Reply-To: References: <47BF4931.40303@osu.edu> Message-ID: <47C09634.5070601@paulbetts.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 William R. Lorenz wrote: | Hi Daniel, | | On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, daniel jensen wrote: | |> I have to develop some programs in c++... Since we all are |> running Linux I would like to ask which IDE is preferred for |> programming in our Linux environment??? | | You might want to consider KDevelop and/or Eclipse, which can do C++. | +1 for KDevelop, don't bother with anything else if you're doing C++. It'll give you a VS-like environment, and an Autotools-based project you can give to anyone - -- Paul Betts -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHwJY0LaH6prIfSccRAtRIAJ4ztWDa+y0QDQ9C3Vk1glCSHXM1ygCggDVC XEACj2TE2857mRWkPwlnzbA= =nIbR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dietz.72 at osu.edu Thu Feb 28 10:08:29 2008 From: dietz.72 at osu.edu (Peter Dietz) Date: Thu Feb 28 10:08:48 2008 Subject: [opensource] Re: Meeting Announcement: silverlight err rather SilverStripe CMS In-Reply-To: <240a31830802261624g692b1457pca4105d2e56a498d@mail.gmail.com> References: <240a31830802261624g692b1457pca4105d2e56a498d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <240a31830802280708o2ae7b9a6td6ba8246bf0c018c@mail.gmail.com> Update, I'm settling on Scott Labs @ 6pm tonight... When: Thursday Feb 28 2008 @ 6PM Where: Scott Labs 103 Pizza: free I hope everyone can make it out to our opensource meeting tonight. I'm trying a new location, Scott Labs (shiny pretty building with sky bridge near Science & Engineering Library) because I think its pretty, and well it fits with the idea of SilverStripe, that it has a great infrastructure. SilverStripe is a MVC (Model View Controller) web development framework for PHP5. It is listed as a CMS, but looking at the code, the CMS is just a class/object/subset of the framework/language. Its also free and opensource. Also, be sure to tell a friend who might be interested, we're open Reasons for the room switch... our speaker is mechanical engineering, and Scott Labs is the mech eng building so as not to scare him Dreese Labs is completely booked before 7, and I wanted to mess with the time of the meeting, easier on the working folks On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Peter Dietz wrote: > Hey everybody, > > Our meeting this Thursday will have Jim Muir speaking, developing, and > teaching about Silverstripe, an open source Content Management System (CMS) > he really likes. > http://www.silverstripe.com/ > > When: Thursday Feb 28 2008 @ TBA > Where: TBA > Pizza: most definitely > > SilverStripe is an intuitive content management system atop a powerful > object oriented MVC programming framework, Sapphire. > > The framework lets you rapidly code up the "objects" your project uses ( > e.g. staff members, products, customers, along with their relationships). > You then add a few lines of code and find SilverSight has automatically > added tables and columns to the database, let you use them in your website > templates, and has added new "page types" and fields into the CMS for the > content editor to utilise. As we said; stay up late for fun, not for your > boss. > > We've rethought how content editors, developers, and designers should > build and manage websites. We've arrived at a unique combination that > empowers all three to get their jobs done more quickly and with more > flexibility. > = > SilverStrike was a project of the Google Summer of Code (SoC) and the > highly open participation content, and is currently under active development > (just hit 50,000 update records). > > TBA = default plans are thursday Dreese Labs 266 @ 7pm, but I am trying to > schedule Scott Labs (SO) 103 for 6pm on thursday because > > > > -- > == > Peter Dietz > > Computer & Information Science -- The Ohio State University -- == Peter Dietz Computer & Information Science -- The Ohio State University -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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