Lotus Notes... For my internship last year I had to develop databases
in it, so for having the database feature I would say its okay, but its
email was, well, less savory then Gmail. {story time} I ended up
spoofing my work email address and having a script forward all my mail
to Gmail. When the corporate security sent our their bi-monthly
security report, they said that because corporate emails are
confidential, that they need to be located on the companies own
machines/servers... So I stopped forwarding my emails and then a week
later or so, I filled up my quota and just started deleting things to
get the quota reminder to go away. And in my Gmail user fashion became
sad when I wanted to find an old email that had been deleted.
<br><br>Anyways, Google is thinking about rolling out their Google
Apps Education Edition to campus' nationwide and has a survey on how
students view their campus' webmail.<br>Survey: <a href="http://www.google.com/studentsurvey" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
http://www.google.com/studentsurvey</a><br>Blog: <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/04/tell-us-about-your-university-email.html" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/04/tell-us-about-your-university-email.html
</a>
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/8/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Daniel Murry</b> <<a href="mailto:murry.8@osu.edu">murry.8@osu.edu</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Gmail allows you to "spoof" your email address. I'm sending this from Gmail right now, yet it looks like it is coming from <a href="mailto:murry.8@osu.edu" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
murry.8@osu.edu</a>. I give out my <a href="http://osu.edu/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
osu.edu</a>
email to professors, school contacts, organizations and my Gmail to
friends and family. So one day if I want I can unforward it. Just in
case. <br><br>Gmail has changed the way I check email. I used to
check it once a week at the most and now I'm a compulsive email checker
person. I'm worried when I start a real job they are going to make me
use Outlook or Lotus Notes or some crap like that.
<br><br>Anyways, just sharing my thoughts. Not looking to debate.<br><br>~dan<div><span class="e" id="q_1126dba8046177c4_1"><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/8/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Brian Swaney</b> <
<a href="mailto:swaney.29@osu.edu" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">swaney.29@osu.edu
</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I'm not sure if I mentioned it, but one of my professors (actually, a
<br>fairly nice professor) does NOT tolerate e-mails from domains other than<br>from the campus. That means either the base <a href="http://osu.edu" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
osu.edu</a>, or<br><<subject>>.ohio-<a href="http://state.edu" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
state.edu</a>. She will delete anything from a gmail,<br>yahoo, AOL, or whatever other account you use, regardless of the subject<br>or your prior requests to accept an external domain, without question. I<br>don't believe this to be completely isolated to her, so I use my OSU
<br>account consistently for such reasons (I had an English instructor with<br>the same policy), as well as the domain actually being credible and<br>commonly accepted.<br><br>Either method would have involved me getting a new e-mail address, so I
<br>chose the one with the ".edu" ending in contrast to ".com". Their spam<br>filters aren't that bad, especially in that you can customize them<br>pretty elaborately, but the ".edu" ending has its drawbacks. OSU is
<br>apparently a bit more targeted, and has people using every trick I know<br>of that they tend to use (except sometimes they aren't using proxy<br>servers). It came to a point where I didn't know what else to do to shut
<br>them out, so I made a whitelist of domains and addresses.<br><br>It's just a simple problem of occasionally forgetting to add a valid<br>exclusion, as was recently seen by everyone, but it was ultimately<br>resolved. You said you get 4 instances of spam per week? I started a
<br>while ago to customize filters in AOL, and after about a month of<br>sorting, I got it to a point where I'd get one or two in a 2 month<br>period (until RealPlayer demands from Spanish classes came along, then<br>
it got worse, but not more than 2 per week after adding a bunch of other<br>domains). I also only filtered out like 1 valid e-mail per month<br>(usually less), not counting the occasional eBay-related e-mail or some<br>automated thing from an organization I support.
<br><br>OSU's filters allow for far more elaborate filtering than<br>sender/domain/string filtering like AOL, and I haven't gotten a single<br>spam message since then (plus Paul's was the only incident of valid
<br>e-mail getting filtered). I still appreciate the advice, and do not<br>doubt the ability of Google. I just want the fancy domain to go with the<br>freedom from the Viagra-freaks.<br><br><br>-Brian Swaney<br><br><br>On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 15:36 -0400, Brandon Mintern wrote:
<br>> I had a similar thought. I guess I was just under the impression that<br>> spam wasn't even an issue anymore. All you have to do is get a GMail<br>> account and put the address in a .forward file in your home directory in
<br>> order to get your CSE mail forwarded there. Then, you can go to the UNITS<br>> (or is it UTS?) website and get your OSU e-mail forwarded there as well.<br>><br>> I get all my e-mail in one convenient place, accessible from any browser,
<br>> with all the spam conveniently filtered out. I get maybe 4 spams in my<br>> Inbox per week, and I've only ever had one e-mail incorrectly placed in Spam.<br>> _______________________________________________
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